Tbh
The Panther D should be 5.7
The VK should be 5.3
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Vehicle : Mirage 4000
Gamemode : Air Realistic
BR Change : 13.0 —> 12.7
Reason :
The Mirage 4000 is currently placed at BR 13.0, but in practice it would be much more balanced at 12.7.
At 13.0, the aircraft is constantly matched against platforms equipped with active radar missiles (Fox 3), which fundamentally shifts the engagement dynamic. The Mirage 4000 lacks access to comparable Fox 3 weaponry, forcing it into a reactive and defensive playstyle from the very start of a match. It cannot contest BVR engagements on equal terms and is often pressured before it can even capitalize on its strengths.
While the Mirage 4000 has strong flight performance and solid radar-guided missiles, these advantages are significantly diminished in a meta dominated by fire-and-forget capabilities. Opponents can launch, disengage, and maintain pressure without committing, whereas the Mirage must maintain guidance and expose itself longer to threats.
This results in:
- Reduced survivability in early engagements
- Limited ability to control distance and tempo
- A consistent disadvantage in high-tier matchmaking
Moving the Mirage 4000 to BR 12.7 would place it in a more appropriate environment where Fox 3 saturation is lower, allowing it to better utilize its performance and weapon systems without being systematically outclassed in BVR combat.
This change wouldn’t make the aircraft overpowered—it would simply make it competitive.
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The T-34 has better mobility than the M4A1 (76) and slightly better reload (5 vs 5.9) but…
- T-34 has weak turret armor and even the UFP is not that different 90-100 EffT vs 90-94 EffT
- T-34 has much lower post-pen damage and the moderate reload bonus does not make up for that
- turret rotation slightly favors T-34
- M4 has vert STAB
- M4 much better gun depression
- Crew 5 vs 4
- M4 has .50 cal
M4 seems to have too many advantages to put them at same BR.
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Vehicle : Etendard IVM
Gamemode : Air Realistic
BR Change : 9.0 —> 8.7
Reason :
Fighting supersonics just because it has Aim-9Bs (which other 8.7 planes already have) is not justified, the flight performance isn’t comparable to other 8.7 or even 8.3 planes being an attacker, i feel like 8.7 will fit this plane much better than fighting supersonics
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I would never take the VK over the Panther D if they were at the same BR.
The modest mobility bonus (they have same top speed) does not make up for the significant difference in frontal protection.
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acceleration is a big factor believe it or not, specially at the start of a match
Sure, but the hp/ton diff is not light and day - 15.5 vs 14.3.
When you compare the UFP of the two, it’s huge difference. 105-110 vs 140-150
Some players might take the bonus on acceleration over the extra protection, but I would not.
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Moderators are the only ones allowed to use red.
its up to personal preference, thats why its a sidegrade.
While the Panther D can exploit more positions and more in a more effective way
Vk.30 has an easier time reaching said positions and can more reliably opress the enemy team.
It’s not spacing anything out. It’s compressing the game further by pushing yet another bracket upwards without thought or without raising the brackets above it
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Oh i didn’t know sry
It absolutely would, as the F-15 and the like are already
More compression! yay!
Vehicle : Mirage IIIE
Gamemode : Air Realistic
BR Change : 10.7 —> 10.3
Reason :
Hello everyone,
I would like to raise a concern regarding the current Battle Rating (BR) of the Mirage IIIE, which sits at 10.7. In its current state, the aircraft feels overtiered and struggles to compete effectively, especially when compared to other aircraft at similar or even lower BRs.
First, let’s take the MiG-21SMT as a direct comparison. The SMT sits at 10.3, yet it has access to four infrared missiles and four radar missiles, while the Mirage IIIE is limited to only two IR’s and only one radar missiles. This already places the Mirage at a disadvantage in terms of offensive capability. Additionally, the MiG-21SMT benefits from strong acceleration, good climb rate, and competitive flight performance, making it a very capable platform at its BR.
Meanwhile, the Mirage IIIE not only has fewer missiles but also suffers from:
- Limited sustained turn performance
- Energy retention that doesn’t compensate for its disadvantages
- A relatively situational radar and missile loadout
At 10.7, the Mirage IIIE is also frequently matched against aircraft at 11.0, which further amplifies the issue. These higher-tier aircraft often have:
- More advanced missiles (both IR and radar-guided)
- Better avionics and radar systems
- Superior overall performance
In such matchups, the Mirage IIIE becomes heavily outclassed, with very little room to leverage its strengths.
Given these factors, lowering the Mirage IIIE to BR 10.3 would place it in a more balanced environment. It would still face capable opponents, but without being consistently outmatched in both firepower and performance.
This adjustment would not make the aircraft overpowered—it would simply make it competitive and more enjoyable to play.
Thank you for your consideration.
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its 12.3 with PL5EII the 11.3 only gets 5C
we cant do that instead they should decompress not recompress
What the f gaijin
What in gods name was the idea behind removing the HEATFS on the Ikv 103? I will literally never play the Ikv 103 again after this.
- Move Ikv 103 to 3.3 without HEATFS(ahistorical nerf for no reason)
- Nah thats dumb, keep the 4.0 BR and HEATFS round(historical)
- i dont care
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You’re not entirely wrong. I would argue its still decompression since there wasn’t really as much occupying the 4.0-5.0 range before, but I think you have a point about the lack of thought.
You can’t just move everything up in an existing bracket with no changes besides BR while also not adding any replacements to fill the gaps left. A few tanks had uptiers a long time coming, but I broadly would have prefered this overhaul be implemented over a 2-3 updates. They literally threw together this overhaul at the last minute based on thread feedback, so its not a shock it’s a bit rough.
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the mig 29 change should be in realistic too. Also the g55 should NOT go up in br
I’ma be real with you I love the Turan III, but if the panzer IV are going up so does the Turan, it’s a better Panzer IV and IS-2 hybrid trolly armor, crazy mobility and engine armor for reverse strats, it should be 4.3 or 4.7
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