so you assume they will get all the things right this time when the br changes are live…, a bit optimistic.
then you also got the problem that it is still very good in this br with probably the best/2nd best non irccm missiles.
VRCC/ Centauro I 105 R 9.7 → 9.3
This vehicle has for a long time been a relatively bad vehicle, good in mobility, but not much else. Its survivability is rather poor as it’s a light tank, but its gun handling isn’t much better. Its 6.7 sec load is a bit bad for it as well. Then with the addition of turret baskets, one hit pretty much anywhere to the vehicle typically results in the inability to fire back as usually your transmission is also destroyed.
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Aubl 74 / HVG reload buff 5.0 secs → 4.25 secs (only logical If 120mm cannons can reload in 5.0 seconds, it doesn’t make sense how / why a 60mm cannon loads in 5.0 seconds. Lending itself to being one of the worst reloads for one of the worst cannons in the game).
This tank is already really really bad as is.
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Su 30mkk and mk2 are still at 13.3?
Damn it was even accepted a year ago.
@Smin1080p_WT Can we get this moved along? It was already accepted and would allow the XS to play confidently in a BR where its performance makes more sense. (I say this as a J35XS owner as well.)
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AMX 50 (TO/930) 8.0 > 7.7 (being slightly faster, with less armor and penetration than the somua, with a APHE round, it never made sense to move this to 8.0 after its battlepass ended, as 8.0 and up it struggles to fight a lot of vehicles if they’re stabilized, well armored, etc.)
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the br range is generally just compressed
you have Buccaneers higher than this thing in br, and the early A10s etc
Su 25BMs like 11.0 with R73s
its just not a good br generally but a radar missile for fighting basically the same opponents anyway is very useful, especially for sim
Vehicle: Ki-94-II
Mode: Air Realistic
BR: 6.0 to 5.7/5.3 or even lower
A rare event plane from 2016, barely used anymore. Why? Just because it is rare, or does its abysmal performance play a part in why its almost never flown nowadays? Similar to the Ki-87, it is a late war high alt interceptor featuring decent performance only at extreme altitudes, whilst suffering from subpar performance at anywhere else. Whilst it features good guns, it doesn´t climb well, isn´t partucularly fast, nor does it turn well, making putting its armament to use a challenge.
Equally, its stats according to statshark from the last six months are abysmal:
March 2026:
February 2026:
January 2026:
December 2025:
November 2025:
October 2025:
Keep in mind this thing is only .3 beneath the P-51H whilst being inferior in basically anything at and around its BR, and fighting Jets regularly. Likely the snail just forgot about it as it barely turns up in their stats due to never being played. For the last six months it hovered around between slightly more than 1000 Battles (1182 Battles in December of 2025) and slightly above 3000 battles per month (3362 in October).
Just because it gets played rarely nowadays shouldn´t mean it gets forgotten in an almost unusable state.
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Naval realistic / sim
Scharnhorst 7.3 → 8.0
This ship has been a menace to naval for the longest time, being one of the hardest ships to kill in the game thanks to its armor scheme.
Its armor can reach over 1000mm RHA, and is next to impossible to ammo rack.
It’s “downside” is it’s weaker cannons, but it’s a mystery how this didn’t get pushed up in BR since all you really do is crew kill it.
If you brawl in it, you’re unstoppable.
Naval realistic / sim
Gneisenau 7.7 → 8.0
Having similar armor properties but boasting better cannons, it’s strangely low in br.
This vessel vs. 6.7s is quite literally a loss for the enemy team.
Why are we MCM’ing, crutch mechanic
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oh
thread nuke went off
It is
Vehicle: T-72B3A
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.3 → 11.3-12.0
Reason: It has no advantages in performance compared to the T-72B3 (with the UBH modification), and the presence of APS does not provide improved protection against the most common hazard.
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true, you could decompress toptier to br 18.0 with no problems.
yes, its not the best, but I accepted the bad airframe good missile tradeoff there.
True
ELC bis
GRB 6.0 —> 6.3
Along with the BR increase, I propose add an optical rangefinder in accordance with these reports:
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VDM still going up :( at least it’s in air RB only.
Very surprised to see so many ground vehicles around 3.3-3.7 going up a step in BR. If we could have decompression instead of different compression that would be great.
Happy enough with PzIV going up to 4.0. I like the PzIV and it’s pretty good for 3.7 so it feels right. But i would like the H and J to be moved back to rank III with the BR increase.
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Pvkv III Should get Slpprj m/49 as it can fire it (Bug report) and it would help defeat KV-1s then make it 4.0 / 4.3. Bam fast reload 57mm with 179mm pen. A complete side-grade to the Pvkv II. Then move the Pvkv IV to where the Pvkv III currently sits and change the Pvkv IV to a Tank destroyer.
Now we have a new good Line-up in the swedish TD Line
(Pvkv II should be 4.3 but you get the concept)
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The AMX 50 (TO90/30) is fine where it is, instead the Souma should go 8.0.
But it is pointless arguing for Premium vehicles to go up before the sales as they have historically only done so after the sales
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both bmpt o be moved up more than what is stated (all game modes)
so the prem bmpt to 12.0 where it will have a amazing line up to go with
and the tecktree bmpt to 12.3 since it is better than the prem one and more capable both will fit well at that br and still do as good as they are now
instead of moving the line a little rip the bandaid off and put them where they sould have been from the start
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