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False. Most noobs call CAS OP cause they’re bad at playing it and don’t like when others are good at playing it.

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Oh, it’s just noobs that call CAS OP, but with the SPAA it’s all just good players that call it OP.
Riiiiiiight…

Nah, CAS totally isn’t OP. It’s those evil SPAAs, especially the devil that is the M163, that are OP!

Literally an AIM-120 A and B situation

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Ah. Wasnt sure if there was some minor difference, not worthy of a different BR, but worthy of mentioning.

Like Aim-9Li vs Aim-9M

The only br where CAS isn’t really busted is around 8.3 and 8.7 where all the gun SPAA live

Im going to largely stay out of this, because I cant be bothered, but I think one of the biggest issues when it comes to discussing CAS is that just because it can fly doesnt defacto make it OP.

I can think of many CAS aircraft that can literally do nothing in one match (for example, vs an OP SPAA) but then can do well, when not facing it.

Id just say that CAS is compressed, but at the same time, there are SPAAs that are under BRed. Then at the same time there are massive gaps in tree where there is no adequate SPAA coverage.

So “CAS can be OP”, is the statement that I think is overall more fair

Coping about what?

The fact that CAS is generally hated and regarded as OP?
The fact that SPAA only ever is regarded as OP when it is strong against tanks, no matter how good (or bad) it is against CAS? (Though I will admit, the Pantsir SM-SV is OP)

Warthunder is mostly played by new low skill players. There’s still people who call the F-104s OP.

Because noobs who do the most complaining don’t have SP for planes.

excluding the marksman/gepard vehicles. they are OP against both

Yeah, let’s keep blaming noobs and ignore the good players that also complain about CAS.

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There are plenty of ways to fix that, Gaijin just refuses to do anything lol

Though against planes, the Gepard-likes BRs are just another result of compression. If more nations had something like the M163, the Gepard-likes definitely could move up one or two steps.

But I guess having tracking and a lead indicator with a whole 1.5km of range (not even a search radar, literally just a track radar) is too OP at 7.3 lmao

Roland 3 is 2 br steps lower
10.0
Smh

not quite there is 1 difference between the 54C and 54C+

and that is the loadout options

F-14B:
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F-14D:

that is due to any pheonix besides the 54C+ needs extra cooling equipment that is housed in the front ceneterline pylons, the 54C+ has internal cooling so that frees up the frontal pylons

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Self contradicting statement.

Ok buddy

Have a nice day

Have they mentioned anything about decompressing Ground RB, particularly 7.7 and above?

From 10.0 to 10.7 is 2 steps, but now 2S6 is 11.0. The difference is much bigger.

They haven’t

If we’re lucky they raise the top BR, decompress the 10.0 to top BR range a bit and that’s it

They barely ever touch the mid and low BRs in meaningful ways, instead they just keep shuffling stuff around in that range

Gaijin:

Top tier is compressed, so we are dropping everything between 8.3 and 11.3 down 0.3 to decompress top tier

:P

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If the F-14A IRIAF were to remain a 13.7 it needs:

More cms (at least 120)
Aim-9Ls
And a better radar

The F-14D with:

4 Aim-9ms
And 4 Aim-54s which weren’t even weak to begin with
And 640 cms if I recall right… is just monstrously good.

A buddy of mine whom isn’t the greatest pilot is currently averaging a 2.19 KDr with it (he’s playing 147 games) and his average KDr for air vehicles is about a 0.6

I would say Aim-9ms can be used more potently with the irst than a F-90 can be.
And I’ve used both a lot.