Update 2.57.1.70 (Battle Rating changes implemented)

It sounds a lot of work with 4.7k replies. But tin foil hat the problem and it becomes much easier…

Past the first 24hrs it degenerates with fewer new worthy replies anyway so just filter the rest out.

Most comments can be ignored as they aren’t BR or other related suggestions (or direct counter arguments)

Even those that are are frequently badly written and don’t come close to the requested formatting.

Anything Naval is automatically ignored because they hate the mode and are passive-aggressively killing it. (not a single player suggestion made the cut…again!)

Once that’s done throw it to the intern to do it in their lunch break. They probably have only to study the merits of a couple of hundred posts , many of which are repeats of the same vehicle! argument.

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The amount of actually good suggestions is so small that the intern can probably go through them all in their coffee break even.

There was one guy spamming so many damn suggestions one after the other. I was wondering why he had nothing better to do.

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From where tf you concluded im an apache player? What does chinese helis having a “worse” ATGMs have to do with having by far the best “stinger” in game? Btw, their ATGMs are absolutely enough to kill ground targets.

actually they consider the absolute top br as top tier (for example 14.7)
(they argued that the jean bart isn’t a top tier premium because it’s 8.3 instead of 8.7 (top br in naval))

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Yeah why didn’t the F-14D go up in BR? It’s pretty on par with the F-14A IRIAF in total capability.

But the br of the IRIAF is so high now it’s not worth playing much anymore.

Tu-95 needs love lol

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Some of us already have a lot of vehicles in mind to suggest, and if you don’t get them early in the thread they’ll probably be ignored even harder.

In my case I did suggestions for the R2Y2s in ARB and GRB, but each model requires a separate post. That alone is six of them.

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Yeah, but posting 20+ one after the other. It smells of main player syndrome. Do one or two and then let others have their say. I wouldn’t be surprised if the team mute those spammers. They should relax the rules on similar models / different modes having to be in different posts, though.

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I hope you’re not referring to me.

We’ve both been playing the game for a while, and I think it’s perfectly fine to voice your concerns, especially when you finally have the time to discuss all of these possibilities. The other part is simply curiosity, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Honestly, I think you don’t care enough about the things Gaijin has been ignoring for far too long, like incorrect aircraft loadouts and overtiered vehicles. You’re just not frustrated enough. If people didn’t care about these issues and spoke up about them, we wouldn’t see any change at all.

Uh oh! Someone actually cares about the game they play and wants to enjoy it! God forbid someone wants to see their favourite vehicles fixed.

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okay 20+ idk about that lol

I think the forum blocks you from posting more than 3 in a row, maybe not here. Plus I don’t think it makes a difference since they’re gonna lock the thread and read it over or have AI summarize it/data scrape the changes.

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Oh no! That sounds terrible!

Wow, Reported your comment as abusive? Guess why my comment has been modified three times above?I just used the format I learned from your comment.

As for your question, ‘where tf you concluded im an apache player?’, of course it’s because I checked your player stats. Among the six helicopters you have over 100 battles in, four of them are Apache‑like vehicles in a broad sense that can carry Hellfire missiles. Otherwise, what should I call you? A Hellfire player?

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True, that’s why most people call CAS OP

Its not though?

For the record I dont ahve the F-14D, so I have no stake in this

If we compare the F-14D to something like the Tornado F3 Late, then 13.0 is the correct BR for it in ARB.

The F-14D has the better overall FM, but radar and weapons fit advantage still lies with the F3 Late. 4x Aim-120Bs are still ebtter than 6x Aim-54s, (as far as I am aware the Aim-54C+ arent that much better than the base ones) and in that config you cant take 4x Aim-9M, only 2. Which is less than the F3 Late.

Now granted, compared to many at 13.0, such as the Harriers or Viggen, Both the F3 Late and F-14D should be 13.3, but until the Su-30s move up to 13.7/14.0, they are stuck at 13.0. As neither even come close its performance.

IRIAF only moved up because of the F-90s which are very potent when employed right, Though its overall weapons fit probably needs upgrading for it to remain at 13.7

From a purely objective standpoint, the F-14D does have a much better radar with IRST, something that no other Tomcat has in-game (it also has the EOTS, which is almost entirely useless, but still), so it should have a higher BR than the F-14B. However, Gaijin loves selling premiums that are better than their TT counterparts at the same BR, so it is, what it is.

The mucher better RWR, the AIM-9Ms and the massively increased CM count should be enough of a trade-off compared to the F-14A IRIAF, but since the Fakours get so many more kills, there is that big BR gap between the F-14D and the IRIAF.

The AIM-54C+ are reskins of the regular AIM-54Cs, though both of them are better than the AIM-54A and all of them are worse than the Fakour.

The balance in WT is completely screwed thanks to the massive skill differences between bad, mediocre and good players, the BR compression and Gaijins unwillingness to risk increasing queue times. The IRIAF and the Zeros are probably the most obvious results of that.

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problem is the hundreds of trash ones. or when someone decides to suggest every trash little patrol boat for belgium or some other insane time waster

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The better radar is fair vs the F-14B. Though Im of mixed opinion actually how much impact IRST has with its current implementation.

But whether that alone is enough to warrant it being a higher BR… im not sure.

But alas, that is just compression, because something like the F3 Late being the same BR as the FA2 just collapses any semblence of balance.

In WTs current state, the better radar + IRST definitely isn’t enough for a higher BR, but that’s also a problem of the F-14Ds implementation.

The F-14D should have been an actual upgrade over the F-14B in-game and gotten a TT variant as well as a premium variant, but Gaijin being Gaijin didn’t care enough to do that lol

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