What timeline is this where people think that chieftains are OP?
the dca has a radar and cant get 50 cal’d
Cause Gepards with totally RL emergency belts of 20 shots APDS per gun are just that: Balanced and historical.
Falcon with ahistorical (never used APDS irl) main belt containing APDS every fourth shot makes it op and is just that: Ahistorical. Falcon just used Practice rounds IRL and was planned to use API-T if it would have been progressed past experimental prototype stage. Thats it. Imho you can be happy that you aren’t restricted to practice-tracer shells.
How so? It’s a highly maneuverable, long dart slewing IFV with four ATGMs it can fire on the move at full speed (that not alot of vehicles can do, by the way).
My line-up there is usually the BVM, 2M, the 292, the Pantsir, one or two of the 11.7 T-80Us, and the squadron Su-33. And the BVM and 292 do about the same work. I’ll have to double check when I get off work to see if I have any screenshots.
And you have no obligation to believe me. Thats fine. Like everyone else here, our recommendations are almost all based on our personal experiences. You think the BMP-2M would be chum in the water. And I disgree. It what it is.
just give the G6 an imaginary radar like the falcon
gepards!
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Didn’t realise that ad hominems were fair game.
Sorry that the Chieftains feel too powerful for you, would you like me to make bad players play them for you, so you feel they’re balanced?
Falcon’s “Radar” isn’t imaginary, its just not a Radar, its Optical tracking
For gaijin to be adding that, as per their own BRMs they will need to be adding a laser rangefinder to it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SXHi6awMTul4
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SYYKuwQiQf1Q
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Actually, in real life, a radar can be installed on the Falcon
btw, Gaijin should take note of adding an APIC-T belt as a replacement.
APDS never existed IRL for the Falcon, but APIC-T did
Based on available data for APIC-T, penetration would be roughly ~95–100 mm RHA @ 0° at point-blank, and around ~40 mm @ 60° at 1000 m,
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Just wanted to drop this here:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1ytIRwKfdYCH
So a Falcon without radar and lead indicator, with SAP-I that doesn’t melt everything in an instant at 100m, would be an ideal 7.7 SPAA.
Going by the same rate as MK 103 SAPHEI, the penetration would drop from 53mm to 42mm with the SAP-I shell.
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I just want justice! BR is still increasing only for Russian machines and everyone is crying that they are OP and because of that Russian tanks are unplayable. T72A,B,1989, T64A,B,T55AM and others. I don’t have the nerve for it anymore. everything is only based on statistics and rarely played tanks then become strong but I don’t mean chieftains but for example Olifant Mk1 at Br 8.3? seriously? with APFDS 336mm at 8.3Br? how can this play against IS3? this is genocide. there are many tanks that need a Br change. best a completely new system or change to UPTIER + - 0.3 and it’s solved. for example T72B bad armor, great gun, no zoom, no thermal vision, no zoom and no reverse and yet it has the same Br as T72Turms which has zoom and thermal vision! the whole BR system based on statistics is wrong!
The T-72B has significantly better armor then the T72AV to be fair.
Also, Russian vehicles are moving up because they are doing well. Their are plenty that have managed to escape BR changes for a while, just as their are NATO tanks that have moved up and NATO tanks that have managed to escape BR changes.
There are very few things or treatments that are Russia exclusive, and very few treatments that are NATO exclusive. The only ones that come to mind are turret baskets and SAM G-pull, both of which favored Russia . Going on and saying that Russia is only ever treated poorly is wrong and only makes the divide and the call for change against Russia worse.
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Finally the T80UD gets what it deserves and goes to 10.7, all the Russian mains are going to complain I’m sure about “MUH THERMALS”
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how do you think everyone else feels when Russian tanks like the 2S38 and BMP-T just sit at their BRs despite some fairly obvious statistics pointing towards overperformance.
If you’d been reasonable and not gone and slammed the Chieftains as overpowered i’d ordinarily agree with you. But I now personally think the Olifant Mk.1A is just fine at 8.3. How else are British players meant to counter that undertiered monster of a tank, the T-10M! That thing has far too much armour and a gun far too powerful
(In case it wasn’t obvious, no, the T-10M really isn’t overpowered. The Olifant probably could go up and do alright, but the mobility is probably the thing that stops it.)
No, it’s really not. M111 doesn’t tend to discriminate on who it shoots.
Water is wet (if anyone says it isn’t wet and only provides the sensation of wetness…)
Funny that.
In the same way the Chieftains moved up. They’re not necessarily good tanks, its just people do well in them. Although a substantial number of the Russian tanks that move up are very good for their BR.
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To be fair, I never said they were good. I just said they were performing well lol. Huge difference.
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They are good tanks, just Gaijin decides to give us them in the worse fits, and against tanks with interesting protection characteristics
Speaking of which, when can we expect the historically accurate LRF for the Mark 5?
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2S38 ok, i am Russia main. But i say: 2S38 have really low Br. this is 11.0-11.3. but BMPT is not strong! he have only APDS. very low gun BUT poorly made body. gaijin made him poorly and he is totally broken but not strong. terminator is really not strong but broken and because gaijin is lazy to fix him he just raises him to a higher Br. this is gaijin’s fault.