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are we not saying the same thing?

im assuming youre talking about 9Ms not being affected by DIRCM like that found on Su-39, and that they are harder to flare.

preflaring 9M will prevent it from being launched in the first place, because the seeker will shut off due to IRCCM kicking in.

You know nothing John snow.

Dogfighting in the flanker is vastly better than a MiG-29

Like I said before, R-73s are good real close up, especially with irst lock. But preflaring can make that all void.

Brother I fly with controller and can gun down enemy planes. And the Su-27s are really good at turn fights if you know how to use it.

Yeah. It would also fix Ground and Naval just as well

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all im saying is that in both scenarios, they stalled and got clapped. Hence me saying that stallin out in Sukhoi is the worst possible thing you can do.

9Ms are definetly still affected by IRCM.

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never said they are not, just trying to make sense.

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Yes I am taking about the Su-39 in that case. And no, I died literally yesterday preflaring & using to Lu the ircm vs an a10c. It didn’t care that I flared, or had my ircm on, it got me 4 times. Then I just started to avoid the area, that’s how broken aim-9ms are.

It typically can regain energy quickly imo and save itself. It’s like a flying ballerina I swear

They should be, but unless they’re bugged. They currently don’t care for ircm’s opinions lol

I have never ever had a 9M ignore IRCM. The only thing I can think of is that they were used against you in side aspect. Pretty much the only place the 9Ms IRCCM actually works as well.

seeing as the Su-30SM player i was talking about attacked me first with both energy and alt advantage, launched 10x missiles over the course of engagement and still lost probably means he didnt know how to properly manage his kit whatsoever.

Id probably need to see the replay with sensor overlay to pass any judgment.

I really want to know why it took 3+ years for Gaijin to finally increase the BR of the M-51 (and even then 6.3 is way too low). This tank has been hilariously busted with 400mm of pen with a point and click adventure.

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No, it was 100% rear aspect, he preflared me, so I couldn’t launch my R-73, so we both turned, he was nearly directly behind me, and I didn’t flare, assuming the IRCM was working, as I wasn’t hit, and it said it was on. And I continued at 80% throttle. Then boom dead. And they just fixed it so the Su-39 engines are cooler.

Trying to load sim replays on Xbox crashes the game. I wish I could send the vid. I’ve been asking gaijin to fix that issue for awhile now.

And yes that gentlemen didn’t know what he was doing with his Su-30sm. I can make that thing dance lol. It’s good under 6-8 mile range, if you haven’t been fired on. Also very deadly sneak attacker.

They could just nerf its reload. But yes it should be 6.7 at least. That cannon is insane

It’s a TD in practice. Does it really matter if it kills you with 400mm pen, or with 240mm pen like with a Sturer Emil? A pen is a pen. Moreover the Sturer will nuke you with postpen APHE, while the M-51 has to individually kill all your guys. For this it gets the same drawbacks of a TD. It’s both slow and poorly armored, with atrocious gun handling. And you usually play it with level 1 crews…

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Welp fat rip the French 10.7 lineup…

MSC had complete parity with the other 10.7’s but French tax means that anything on par with other nation’s vehicles has to be horrendously over BR’d in the French tech tree.

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That’s some massive cope and ignorance.

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Probably because a bunch of people thought the same as you and expected the tank to be a super weapon.

Then reality hit them.

And the stats were kept low because of that.

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Ah yes then explain to us why the FL11 is 4.3 when the M24 Chafee is 3.7…

Despite the M24 literally being better in every way…

Well???

Let’s hear it???

There is many such examples like this and the MSC is now just another one of them.

The MSC was a sidegrade to the Leopard 2A4… Now it’s above it in BR due to the mald of brainless bots…

God forbid France have a tank that performs well while being directly on par with other nation’s vehicles in terms of capability.

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