Now already 4 countries sub tree, maybe
Personally, british might not want 5th & 6th nation sub tree after indian, aussie, south african and canadian
I don’t see why Korean TT would start at the likes of Rank V,…
Most of it’s earliest aircrafts can be Rank IV :
P-51 Mustang and A-37 Dragonfly (BR wise on the last)
Rank V: F-86D, F-5A/B, F-4D
Rank VI: F-5E + F-4E
RankVII: KF-5E (later MLU)
Rank VIII: F-16C block 32 + KF-16 block 50 + KF-16 block 70 +F-15K + F/A-50
Then F-35 and KAI KF-21
That was considering only ROKAF,…
If we get a United Korean TT (which seems completely out of sense):
Rank IV:
Yak-9, Yak-9P, La-7, IL-10
and several old Japanese aircrafts types (mostly Air Army : Ki-xxx models, since IJN was most exclusively fighting in the pacific, so no A6M’s or similar)
In such:
Ki-43-III
Ki-61-I late and Hei
Ki-100
Ki-83
J2M3 or 5
Rank V:
Early MiG-15
MiG-15bis
Shenyang F-5
Il-28
Rank VI
Shenyang J-6
MiG-21
Su-7
Rank-VII:
Shenyang J-7
MiG-23
Su-25
Rank VIII:
MiG-29
21 aircrafts of NK
13(15) aircafts of SK
So, about 34 aircrafts only if the NK is added within the SK,…
I prefer to see a SK subtree, because even if it is integrated to a larger nation, it is keeping much more sense, as there will be no NK mixing of aircrafts within the tree.
As they have done with many subtree to date the Subtrees aren’t mixed within main TT, unless there is a reason(Thailand Strike fighter joined the strike line of the Japan TT) this shows that with PROPER display within TT and light change to Japan TT Flag, SK could be incorporated alongside Japan TT
But hey, i’m no Dev, and i’m simply trying to make this game looking with some sense (which it currently lacks at many areas of the game)
Example of a Korean TT
I mean I can pretty easily create a Korean TT that is just as big as the Israeli one with a similar amount of room to grow at least for air, I know nothing of ground but I assume that a united Korea tree would have plenty.
I also see no issue with uniting them as that is very similar to China with one main difference, there won’t be any NK players, and as with Israel starting at rank IV is just fine
I also think the two trees complement each other quite well, with NK filling the rank 6 gap for SK and SK filling in the rank 8 attackers as well as giving viable top tier
I’ve filed 5 different sources and none suggest that Korean ever recieved the F-86F25,…
H-5 is Il-28 (same aircraft)
And i basically gave every other aircrafts, even added those that North Korea used sporadicly before the Yak-9/La-7 gifts.
About MiG-21, variants are present.
And even with the upgrades, KF-5E can’t really be a 13.3 BR wise ^^"
I’m not claiming the whole tree is unique but there is enough for a TT, and it’s arguably just as if not more unique than Israel atm, I agree with KF-5E, I was doing very surface research and kinda jumped to the conclusion of it being modernized with AMRAAM capability which after looking further is clearly wrong, NK is a bit hard for variants but I found some reference to those specific MiG-21s though I admit I have no idea what version of MiG-23 they used, and as for the F-86, while I don’t know that is the F-25:
and I just picked the F-25 as it is already in game so I could easily give it a BR
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That picture came with the Aero pylons, so make it with 2x AIM-9B,… → F-86F-40 is minimal at this point
Didn’t saw that picture before, and i’m not the best about Korean stuff within Korean war,…
so i can have missed some.
Good point, can’t believe I missed that.
Also when it comes to the KF-5E it could be placed at 11.3 with the AIM-9P-4 or something similar, or just replace the F-5E with the KF-5E and then add the KF-16U to the top end of the tech tree
There is already an whole suggestion for it :
United Korean Aviation Tech Tree - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum
44 aircraft + 14 premium (some can be removed), if we were to include Rank I/II/III then 14 more vehicles would have been added (Rank III is very limited).
Oh I’m aware, just discussing what I can with my own knowledge base
You don’t have to add (and therefore wait for) a new airframe to get an AESA radar. Both the F-15C MSIP and F-15E in game got one. Im fairly certain even the Block 50 F-16C got one too. Best solution is to just pick one, probably the F-15C MSIP and give it the newer radar. The F/A-18 is like three, probably four now, updates overdue at this point and unless it comes with some wild kit like 120Cs and early Block I 9xs, will pretty much be DoA.
In fact that F-86F-40 could come in Early and Late forms with and without sidewinders which would help fill in the TT a bit, as the F-86F was given to Korea June 1955 which is at least 2 years before AIM-9B production really began afaik
Some things have enough upgrades to justify a new jet, like the in-game F-15E vs peak F-15E that could come. For the C im fine with just upgrading to golden eagle standard.
Yes F-16C got AESA but also got a lot of other upgrades, I think it should be future end line for US F-16
Then make one as Japan F-86 F-30 block.
Like Rafale F.1 F.2.2 and F.3R or F.4.1 and F.4.2
Yeah pretty much
I could very much see a Block I AIM-9X being released alongside the F/A-18 in the US tree, but they would have to fix the R-73 first as thrust vectoring missiles don’t really work great right now, but Block I was only 60g with lower levels of IRCCM than the Block II and later so it can’t be far off surely
Similar yeah, though IDK if Korea used F-30s and there are some reasonably significant differences between F-30 and F-40
Also, if you have a closer look at the 2025 decal they just released
Decal
there is clearly an F/A-18A/C in it as well as what is likely an SU-30 and some brand new SAM that I haven’t identified, could be a Rapier maybe IDK
Given that the decal is called “Looking into 2025” that pretty much confirms them for early next year right?
Using the Wikipedia linked sources, i can definetly says that you’re right about 1955 F-86’s, but can’t tell more about the variants.
I can also say from those sources that F-86D are also a true reality for ROKAF (at least 60 aircraft in 1969)
From a “not a source” 85 of the F-86F were ancient USAAF F-86F of blocks -25 and -30, and numerous of those then got retrofitted to -40 standard to add AIM-9B loadout.
Sooo, the 3 F variants are possible and D variant aswell
That would be pretty great if true.
I’ve kind of refrained from mentioning the D as it used rockets instead of guns which would make it pretty awful and hard to balance at the same time