T62 is fine at 8.7 mate, no 7.3 deserves to see a t62.
Good round, decent mobility, decent profile, armour and a pretty solid reload of about 8 seconds.
Yeah nah keep it at 8.7
T62 is fine at 8.7 mate, no 7.3 deserves to see a t62.
Good round, decent mobility, decent profile, armour and a pretty solid reload of about 8 seconds.
Yeah nah keep it at 8.7
Better yet, move t55amd and am 1 up to 9.0 where they belong. T 62 is chieftain equivalent so it should stay at 8.7
Well, I can say the same thing for the AH-64DJP because it’s like an AH-64A but with the AGM-114K. It doesn’t even have MAW, so I know your pain. If they moved it to 11.3, okay then, but to 11.7, really??
I think there are 3 big issues here.
I keep telling people biggest problem is 90% of matches are uptires and thats not it… just bad
I feel like I could make a pretty good case for 14 at a minimum and 15.0 as almost idea allowing BR decompression below at almost all the BRs
Can someone explain to me why the challenger 3 is 11.7 while the Ariete AMV is 12.0?
the AMV have No armor or survivability, far less spall liners. Subpar mobility and a slightly inferior fire power. AMV is litteraly a 10.3 tank with a better shell
Advantages of Ariete AMV over Challenger 3 (TD):
-Lighter (54 ton vs 62.5 ton)
-More powerful engine (1500 hp vs 1200 hp)
-Therefore, much better power/weight ratio (27.8 vs 19) which leads to significantly better acceleration.
-Faster turret traverse speed (40º/s vs 31º/s)
-Faster gun elevation speed (22º/s vs 11º/s)
How? Challenger 3 (TD) only has one spall liner on the UFP, Ariete AMV has spall liners on the turret cheeks. Both have a low amount, but CR3 doesn’t have “far more spall liners” than AMV.
Don’t get me wrong, Ariete AMV is NOT 12.0 material, even less so given all of the Arietes’ nerfed state- but I wouldn’t make my case comparing it to Challenger 3 (TD) as if it were a better tank. Challenger 3 (TD)'s only two advantages are better armor and slightly higher penetration- in every other way, Ariete AMV is better.
Both are terrible, but Ariete AMV is slightly more meta given its characteristics.
“slightly more meta given its characteristics”? you mean the sability to die as soon ad something “fart” in your general direction? Challenger 3 have weak spots, AMV is the weak spot
And on the spall liners, as they are now on the ariete they are basically useless as the whole hull is a weak spot. I was wrong on the challenger 3 spall liners tho, for some reason i thought it had the same spall liners on the turret as the challenger 2. Both are terrible indeed but one is at the same br as a leopard 2A7 the other isn’t. So much for the “we lissen to our player” that our “beloved moderators” brag so much about
I tried playing 9.3 USSR lineup
I have lineup with 8 crew T-74A, T64A, BMP-3, Object-775, 2S25, zsu-23-4m4, Su-7BKL, Mi-24V.
I’ve been playing this comp for the past 4 days and see about a 40% uptier, the problem with the uptier comp is the lack of thermal scope
Can the F-14B finally get the AIM-9M and the F-14A AIM-9L, play 13.7 every game with AIM-9Ls is awful. They both deserve it and it’s not too late before the update comes.
The fact the bmp 3 is a lower br than my desert warrior is comical, i would take it to top tier over bothering with the warrior. Its worse than the base warrior due to getting tow2bs which are its only usable weapon as the 25mm is usless and the tow2a isnt worth bringing over the b’s.
I mean the desert warrior has better rounds, missiles and can fire its missiles far quicker?
The TOW 2s already have 50 more mm of pen and you get top attacks? Plus you get 2 missiles every 13 seconds (10 seconds minimum) compared to ONE missile every 26 seconds. I mean I guess the BMP 3 can fire its 30mm FAR quicker but that wouldn’t make it 10.0 worthy. The Desert Warrior is just a less survivable PUMA at .3 lower BR with missiles.
PUMA? the fact your comparing a warrior to a puma tells me alot. Also, i may have mentioned tows but thats not where the bmp shines. It has a 4 second reload for an 100mm he slinger with enough he filler to kill mbts. Its a rocket ship compared to the desert warrior. Plus, it doesnt matter if you can fire a missile every 10 seconds when said missiles are impossible to aim even remotely accurate. Gun launched atgms have been hardly effected by the atgm changes making them the only viable option for hitting targets at this point.
One of the most rubbish light vehicles I’ve ever used is the M3A3 Bradley, one time the enemy commander at 2km away fking sneeze at the direction of my turret and I blown up.
The worst part being the warrior is somehow a worse version of it, it hasnt got comander thermals nor are they raised. And yet they are seen as 0.7 above the bmp/bmd 3 which baffels my mind. The only time they could be better is on big maps but even then the bmp 3 can just flank.