This…
Does this mean we will no longer be able to see the enemy’s position…???
Really…???
YES!!!
Edit:
nvm…
“Instead, you’ll still see the fatal hit in detail, and when you’re shown the enemy who destroyed you, the camera will be turned in your direction to make it easier to assess the killer’s position and any mistake that you made.”
At least they haven’t destroyed any more maps
calm the hell down it was proven by a guy that this is possible (if ur talking about the SPO-10)
In Simulator Battles, RWR will now detect all radars and ARH with overlapping frequency ranges, regardless of the type of signal, as in Realistic Battles. For example, SPO-10 previously could not detect radiation in PD modes, but now can. The Friend or Foe (IFF) function will also work for RWRs capable of identifying exact radars, which means the detected radiation from allies will not be shown on the indicator of affected RWRs.
So what’s even the point of having different bands and even introducing that feature anymore if you are going to simplify it, so we are back to 2022 when it comes to complexity of this stuff?
Why is it even being changed? I have not seen anyone complaining about that on forum anywhere and it was fine in that state we had in SB.
If some plane couldn’t compete because of bad avionics then that specific plane’s Battle Rating should be changed and not everything simplified instead.
I am really worried about where is it going now, at this rate we will have missiles with IFF back soon in Simulator Battles like few years ago when there was a bug where IR missiles couldn’t lock on friendly planes.
@Armen_Lozone
Well then they should change the SPO-10 only and not simplify everything else.
we’re basically having RB RWR in sim - that’s a big step back in every aspect.
No!!! We’ve been waiting for this since it was added for RB, and it is realistic.
What’s not realistic, is that a real conflict would have Vipers, Fulcrums and Gripens on BOTH sides, making this (realistic) addition even necessary…
Completely agree. Some planes will dominate the skies with no downside due to this change. F-4S at 11.3 top BR and F-14A at 11.7 top BR are some examples.
Also - how would RWR “IFF” tell friendly and enemy F-16s/F-4s/Mig-29s apart?
How their emission differ? They are identical planes having identical radars.
this is just a magic arcade mechanics implemented in sim. It makes no sense and is stupid and unnecessary.
??? HOW IS THIS REALISTIC
RWR systems cannot and do not perform ANY TYPE of IFF. Where did you get that they do?
There is NO realism in this change. It’s dumbing down the system to cater for players who are unable to deal with the drawbacks and flaws of the RWR systems.
You can keep the simplified mechanics in AB and RB but don’t dumb down SB with arcade mechanics.
Nice. Let’s try again.
So-o-o… Now to protect my team against Su-25SM3 i must pay 647-740 SP. Also you fix-buff Pantsir-S1 which still cost 90 SP and don’t have multiplier from first respawn. Nice. Balanced.
If we claim it’s “Sim” - why do we even have the issue that we have friendly F-16s/F-4s/Mig-29s battling each other?
I wonder what scenario IRL that would be…
source?
…then don’t make it artificially impossible to distinguish between friend and foe by allowing Red and Blue fly the same birds… THAT’s even more unrealistic.
Ukraine and Russia, for one, have mig-29, su-27, and su-25 and they’re fighting each other right now… as well as mi-8 and mi-24…
HOW IS IT REALISTIC?
fact that it was in game mode that have “realistic” in it’s name does not make it so.
Can you provide documents that prove that changes to PD detection and ability for RWR to tell identical radar apart based on country affiliation are realistic?
I’d be very happy to be proven wrong
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how is it “artifically impossible” to perform radar IFF or PID visually??? This is a problem that ACTUALLY happens IRL. RWRs do NOT have that capability IRL.
You’re making a comparison that isn’t at ALL equivalent.
This bit is most certainly not realistic:
RWR will now detect all radars and ARH with overlapping frequency ranges, regardless of the type of signal, as in Realistic Battles. For example, SPO-10 previously could not detect radiation in PD modes, but now can.
The SPO-10 can only detect signals with a PRF of up to 8,000 Hz maximum. HPRF PD radars operate at a PRF of over 300,000 Hz, so there’s no way the SPO-10 could ever hope to detect them in real life.
Seems like hmd doesnt work for the beginning of the battle, except in the cockpit
you know why Israel had HUGE YELLOW TRIANGLES on their Mirages? Because Egypt had the same planes when both countries fought.
You heard about Russian invasion on Ukraine? both sides use same plane types
Ever heard of Ethiopia vs Erythrea war when Su-27s fought vs Mig-29s? planes have radar with emission near identical to a point where even modern RWRs can’t tell them apart
Ok, maybe I need to take a step back from y claim, and focus on the real issue with Sim:
Such a change wouldn’t be necessary (or less necessary) if the aircraft setup would matching the same aircraft against each rather the exception rather than the norm.
Yes, it can happen, the current famous conflict being one example, but it is certainly not the rule.