Seems more accurate considering you’re just throwing words than backing it up with anything substantial. If energy is all that matters, why is ariete considered the bane to dogfight against even with supersonics at its BR?
Almost like it has a thing called it will literally hound you and kill you when you drop below mach speed.
Before you say “but it also good at turning” sagit 2 is right there, just without the thrust of the ariete. Sure, you can outrun the ariete when you have enough speed, but saying you can outrun one when you just disengaged from a 1v1 is lying.
The advantage the ariete has against its competition is nothing close to what the F-16 has against its own.
The supersonics ariete has to face have around the similar subsonic acceleration, or worse, and have far worse turn rates.
The ariete would absolutelly slap the F-16 too if he didn’t ditch out.
saggitario 2 is different. Firstly, it is over-tiered because it should be 9.0. And second, most 9.0’s can run away from the saggitario 2/outclimb it just fine, unlike the ariete. Nevermind 9.3’s
This difference is similar to F-16s and MLDs. and most supersonics it face has worse subsonic accel except MiG-19.
This is literally the point im making with the F-16. You 1. disengage at the speed where F-16s have the most engine power 2. have your high drag wings swept out and 3. have less rate speed than F-16 and you think somehow the F-16 has trouble catching?
What?
If I disengage at speed favorable to ariete, I’d be dead. This applies here. You are conflating high speed thrust to all speeds when mig-23 only beats the acceleration beyond mach 1.2
Do you regain mach 1.2 from 800 IAS in 10 seconds? No? Then I don’t see why you’re outrunning an F-16.
(edit: Did testing, MLD trails behind F-16A to get to mach 1.1 from 800 by 6 seconds, yeah ain’t outrunning anything)
You won’t be catching a MLD unless he dumbly commits, thats my point. Especially when you have to start with a positional disadvantage with low altitude, nor notching, or both.
You won’t gain distance in any meaningful time before he reaches very high speeds, which he can maintain at 102% afterburner or do a shallow climb. Without sparrows, you cannot punish him for ditching out like that
So “plane must be played in very specific way” to not get run down by F-16 is the takeaway.
Yeah… Not exactly the “better than F-16” that you were claiming. Why don’t you make a thread saying MLD is actually better than F-16A and see the response? I’m sure many will point out the issues I did.
