I just played a game, it was an upteir… no biggie, it happens. but what wasn’t cool was on my team we had ONE player who was 11.0, and EVERY OTHER PERSON ON OUR TEAM was 10.7 or lower, the enemy team however had SIX people at 11.0 and higher, WITH FOUR OF THEM at 11.3, which none of my team was. as you can understand, it was a turkey shoot, it lasted 12 minutes and ended with a nuke… how can this possibly be a justifiably fair match? I would rater wait another 10 mins in queue to just at least an EVEN game with the same number of 11.3 on both teams…
(lots of photos cus I don’t know where to see this data otherwise)
my team:
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other team:
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how many 11.3 vehicles do U.S/U.K/Swe/Ger even have
Answer: There are no 11.3 lineups in the tech trees your team is playing.
USA’s is 10.7 then 11.7 unless you make a lineup around IPM1.
Britain’s is 10.7 then 11.7.
Sweden is 10.7 then 12.7 unless someone is making a lineup out of the T-80U.
And Germany is 10.7 then 12.0.
So your situation can be forced by players playing USSR pairing with tech trees that have 11.0 and 11.3 lineups such as Israel, and China.
to be fair ive seen this happen in other modes for example i was playing russia and flying the SU33 and the enemy team had a F15C while all we had where 13.3s and 13.0s to add insult to injury someone uptiered a AV8B NA
the match making system needs a fairness update
That could be explained by squad pairing as well, if the F-15C player was in a pre-made squad.
It can also be that a player was in a squad at a BR lower than his friend by a significant amount that allowed the F-15C player to exist outside of a squad.
Welcome to the squad pairing system.
thats basically a exploit
It’s not really an “exploit”, because not only is it non-beneficial for the player attempting the trick, its results are no where close to consistent.
If I bring a P-47 with my friend in an A-10, the game is going to attempt to pair me with another 2 stack [or 3 if it can’t find a 2 stack] squad on the opposing team.
It can be a full downtier where the A-10A is one of 4 players at 10.7, or it could be an uptier where any number of situations can occur.
It’s why no one intentionally does the trick despite people knowing about it forever.
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I had a match where the enemy team had F-15Es as highest BR planes, we had 6 Rafs and an EFT
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I think the MM just averages out the BRs
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pretty sure the matchmaker counts this as fair because both teams had a similar average br
your enemy team was 8/16 10.3s (with 2/16 10.7s), and your team was 10-11/16 10.7s (with 4-5/16 10.3s)
did you screenshot your random squadmate on your team? having a complete dataset would be nice but you missed him
yeah its an average of just under 10.7 for both your team (10.62) and the enemy team (10.69) so while not perfect its still not terrible
plus like only two of their above 10.3s seem to have done anything, with 2/4 of their 11.3s and 1/2 of their 11.0s having colectively gotten 1 kill
I’d say by far the bigger issue is how many more tanks each person on the enemy team has
like they have an average of 5 tanks with almost everyone in the top half of their team having 6-9 tanks
like sure the free backups and free vehicles help this problem but when the guy with 9 vehicles in his lineup and the guy with 1 both get access to those it isnt as useful as youd think as it frees them up to play far more aggressively than most of the players on your team can
none lol. May be people uptiering tanks for aircraft
same with 11.0 there are only like 8 of them total
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It is pretty terrible as the higher br vics will always do way more work proportionally than the lower br vics. particularly as most of the 11.3’s are bmpt’s which are still a little under br’d at 11.3.
i mean youd think that but half of their best vehicles did functionally nothing, whereas the only guys on your team who did nothing were just more 10.7s
in my experience russian tanks perform well when played aggressively but if you can withstand the initial push or deny it outright their teams start to collapse but when 11/16 of your team only had 1-3 tanks surviving that push becomes near impossible
I’m taking issue with some statements within this conversation. I made a post months ago about seeing an entire 1 BR gap in the matchmaking. I have noticed this twice, and it is VERY possible even when the BRs exist.
