I would love a general “spaa update”. No top tier tanks/planes added, just an update that only adds spaa to fill some gaps.
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Make a deal with the devil(snail) and have top tier premium spaa that are just leagues better than the panstir.
But yeah, I dont like their hyper fixation on adding top tier mbts, jets, and premiums. I really want them to take a nice year long break from it and give spaa and low/mid ranks some attention.
Better yet, have an update cycle that does that. We have 5 updates a year. Do something like 1 update is low rank stuff, 1 is mid rank, 2 are top tier, and 1 is naval/heli.
What do you even mean by russian bias?
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as far as im aware nobody else has made an SPAA with that range
usually nations rely on heavier emplaced systems such as Patriot or S-300 for Anti Air protection on this kind of range
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I’m not too sure about all nations, but I know China made similar SPAA (and they have been submitted as suggestions in this forum), and I believe Israel has similar SPAA too (I’ve seen some suggested here and on reddit). They exist, but gaijin doesn’t care.
Could you all tell me if Sweden has something similar to this?
Not sure how a SPAA that can’t kill semi-good CAS players unbalances the game.
CAS is still OP, Pantsir can’t kill us CAS players @BasherBenDawg
So yeah, obviously there are no Russian bias. Pantsir’s not anymore powerful than ITO-90M against CAS.
@jspene
No they didn’t. 2S6 was corrected, and Pantsir was added to replace it.
Pantsir should stay, and in-fact Soviets should get a better SPAA cause Pantsir’s not enough to kill good CAS players.
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We need a lot of more powerful spaa for other nations as well tbf. Cas is a bit op up at top tier tbf. Just wish other nations had pantsir equivalents for now.
(Meanwhile British as such with their canADATS on worse chassis and no gun at same be as usual adats, as well as Japan and Israel suffering using IR anti air lmfao)
If we can have T-90M then maybe we should have some later and higher tech spaa… maybe a special spawn on maps for patriots and such might not be a bad idea…
They already have Pantsir equivalents.
We need new systems that actually have 20km range.
Pantsir’s range against jets is ~12km, it’s 18km against drones and helicopters.
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Some nations do, not enough…
Hopefully we will get more in the future… definitely needed…
Lol ok dude. If you’re in the more manuverable ones (M2/4K, F-16C, JH-7A, Gripen), and with a light payload (Mavericks, small GBUs) sure, but not less manuverable ones like Harrier or Tornado
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ITO is the closest thing, but the pantsir still beats it in every aspect. Every other nation is significantly lagging behind. I do agree that we need better SPAA though.
Italy with the OTOMATIC :(
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No, Pantsir does not come anywhere close to ITO’s missile maneuverability.
ITO-90M and TOR-M1 have best maneuverability, Pantsir’s among them for dealing with <12km targets though.
According to stat-card maybe, but not in practice. TOR-M1 is very easy to dodge. Completely useless if the aircraft is close, and the missile trail make it easy to spot and dodge at range.
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If you think TOR-M1 is easy to dodge then you’ve never been hit by any SPAA’s missile ever.
TOR-M1 is the final hill for me, I can avoid being hit by all others, but TOR’s constant 33G pull out to 12km is a bit difficult.
They need to just give everyone else similar capabilities (or better ones). And if for some reason we don’t get new SPAA with 20km range like the Pantsir, they could always add things like the AH-64E with 8 Spike N-LOS missiles to even the playing field in the struggle for air supremacy.
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Should have just given the Russians the TOR M1 tbh.
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The S-1 has a 80 Degree arc. Sit above it.
I have almost no issues with the S-1 with the F-16C and J39C. ITO on the other hand… that thing can die in the cave it was born.
I’ve hardly ever been hit by the TOR because I see it coming. The pantsir gets me quite often however since I have no idea the missle is even in the air, and the planes I usually fly out at top tier don’t have the manouverability to dodge it. And just to be clear, I’m not flying out CAS. It’s usually phantoms or starfighters.