What is then the armor values for Oplot tank and what is the ERA that it uses, so lets say I am in an M1a2 version tank fire A2 round distcance around 1km similar height no height advantage on my part, flat shot will it pen?
I agree with that one as well, too much drama. But we can continue the conversation of armor value penetration and the addition of new nations.
Nizh-1M offers about a 10-20% increase over K-5. Duplet-2M takes Nizh-1M and stacks them on one another, angled. Duplet-2M is the ERA used on the BM Oplot. The T-84U/BM Oplot zr. 2000 uses Nizh-1M only.
Even if it penned or not, the US still continued to develop the M829 round to maximize its effectiveness. Any country does this, regardless if the original worked, they’re still going to keep developing the munition to maximize its performance and remove any chance or risk of failure.
1 Like
I haven’t said that. My direct quote about this : “when hit with old and thick APFSDS”
I will elaborate further when i get back home
No dude no problem this not about accusations , its about me getting a compete understanding of armor values, cause I have been reading quite a bit online ever since playing this game. I find it interesting when there are discussions about armor and constitutes a penn vs non pen.
1 Like
This means that if Duplet ERA is added to the game then even DM63 should not be able to pen it frontally. What is then the theoretical overall protection added to the upper glacias of Oplot and Turret cheecks, hardest areas of the tank.
I get it and I haven’t thought that your message was an accusation. I just corrected you since you misunderstood me a little bit
All right good conversation, well take care. I am off to do a lot of University work. Thunder time is now over.
Okay. When i would get home I’ll make a big post about things you have asked, since there is a lot to explain
Publicly available information from Swedish MBT trials
Literally the best tank of USSR when it comes to armour.
The armor of the T-80U was estimated at 670 mm in rolled homogeneous steel equivalent. As can be seen from the scheme
value around 700 mm of protection in the T-80U turret is less than 40% of the frontal projection of the turret, the main value is within 460 mm, taking into account that most of the frontal projection (at 0 deg) in zone near the gun is not covered by the armor composition.
They are very impressive. This is comparison of BM Oplot-T with VT-4.
I believe that basic turret protection against KE rounds is 780-800mm of RHA equivalent.
Duplet ERA
If you hit the area covered in ERA - no, if you hit area that is not covered (it is small but chances still exist) it is likely to penetrate the armour
If these measurements are correct then definitely no if you hit the ERA covered place
|120mm M256: [M829A1 APFSDS-T]700
|120mm M256: [M829A2 APFSDS-T]750
|120mm M256: [M829A3 APFSDS-T]840
Fun thing about Relict and Kontakt-5 ERA
In fact, the Relict is the K-5, in which the breezability and sensitivity were slightly increased, which increased the chance of triggering on APFSDS. However, it has not been tested against thin western APFSDS as well as the K-5.
It is not clear why Relict became “so much more effective” than the K-5, except for dry text from the Research Institute of Steel I have not seen any proofs of this claims, not even photos from firings.
IRL Relict doesn’t show very good results. It works against non-tandem HEAT rounds as any other ERA does, but it has bad things like exploding all sockets for ERA if one socket is hit, same goes for Kontakt-5
Spoiler
Now it appeared yesterday in official War Thunder twitter video about sight customization system. So let’s wait for proper introduction dev blog I think.
1 Like
Haven’t seen one. If it’s for a fact then it’s going to be a bestseller i think
Here’s the screenshot.
1 Like
Lol, if we’ll see the devblog i will already save money to buy it
1 Like
it’s a T-54, has the little dome on the right side (left in the picture) on the top of the turret, iirc its for air circulation
3 Likes
8 Likes