seems cool, my initial thought was to say no, but Yontzee’s hard work has payed off and successfully convinved me that this tt is not copy and paste. It is a +1 for me. o7
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Here’s an ARV with a ZU-23-2 on it. This is a non-negotiable must.
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Oddly enough, this is not the only modification, here are some more photos:
Spoiler
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Judging by one of the pictures, there are total of 4 of the, “ahim”, “bang”, “cherep” and “bereg”. As seen by the wheel base those are ex-russian T-55’s, probably units that captured those didn’t saw any use of them as tanks, so they did this modification in one of theirs field garages.
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‘‘Well akchually’’ Those are the BTS-4A tractors based on the T-54 chassis.
I managed to find an article on “Militarnyi” regarding those.
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Oh really, thanks.
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Nah bro. That`s definitely not T-72 with bigger gun. Just look at the chassis.
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We were speaking about this.
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Got it. I not noticed this pic, my bad
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We have BMP-1M in the honorable mentions, but there are no photos. I did a little searching on the Internet and found two BMP-1Ms:
- BMP-1M with the “Shkval-A” module (2011)
Detailed info
BMP-1M (first) at the IDEX-2011 exhibition in Abu Dhabi:
BMP-1M (first) on parade in Turkmenistan. 2016:
The BMP-1U was developed into the BMP-1M variant (also known as “Object 765UTB”), which was first shown in February 2011 at an exhibition in Abu Dhabi. Its main difference is the improved KBA-105TB “Shkval-A” combat module, in which the Kontest ATGM was replaced by the Ukrainian Barrier (the missile launch range increased from 2000 to 5000 meters), the OTP-20 optical-television system was replaced by the new Tandem-2 system, and an improved SVU-500-3C weapon stabilizer was installed. "Tandem-2 includes two television cameras - a narrow field of view (6 km range of detection of a tank-type target, 5 km recognition range) and a wide field of view (3 km range of detection of a tank-type target), as well as a laser rangefinder. The combat capabilities of the Tandem-2 system are limited due to the lack of a thermal imager, although its cameras can operate in low light.
The BMP-1M was offered for export by ZhBTZ, but without much success. As far as is known, a batch of these vehicles was sold only to Turkmenistan, and this transaction was not included in the arms trade reports submitted to the UN. Neither the delivery time nor the number of vehicles sold is known. The only evidence of the presence of BMP-1Ms in Turkmenistan was their demonstration at a military parade in 2016.
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- BMP-1M with the “Spear-Synthesis” module (2021)
Detailed info
BMP-1M with the “Spear-Synthesis” module. October 2021. Photo: NPO “Practika”
The updated BMP-1 is equipped with a modern ramp instead of the usual two doors-tanks of the landing compartment. It is also noticeable that the height of the hull of the combat vehicle has been slightly increased.
The landing gear compartment has become more spacious and comfortable for military personnel. Traumatic individual seats for troops are located along the sides of the vehicle, which makes it impossible to fire personal small arms from the loopholes, which was possible in BMP-1 before its modernization.
The modernized BMP also differs from the Soviet model in the presence of an advanced combat module “Spys-Synthesis” developed and manufactured by the company "NPK “Tekhimpex”.
The “Spys-Synthesis” is equipped with the Synthesis fire control system from Digital Technologies. The new fire control system includes a Kazhan-3K15 OEM, two television cameras, a thermal imager, a laser rangefinder, and a new weapon stabilizer.
The Synthesis system features automatic target acquisition and tracking.
Unlike the Soviet BMP-1, the Spys-Synthesis has a much larger and more modern list of weapons.
It includes a 30-mm ZTM-1 main automatic gun, a 7.62-mm machine gun, a 30-mm automatic grenade launcher KBA-117 (AGS-17), two launchers (four guided missiles) of modern and powerful Barrier ATGMs from the Luch Design Bureau.
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So which one are we talking about? 🤔
I’ll be updating this in the near future. Real world caught up. Stay tuned and feel free to share your own renditions of the tree 🫡
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Big no from me, reasons being: Vastly limited amount of unique vehicles.
The only way I can see this being implemented is as subtree to the ussr since Ukraine is a successor state to it. And due to the said unique vehicles having soviet origin.
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It was explained million times why it isn’t possible to implement Ukraine as a sub tree to Soviet TT (not political, gameplay-wise), I won’t go over again. This way I’ll go insane.
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Then it simply can’t and shouldn’t be added at all, with the current state of how the game and nations work. Maybe if they restructure tech trees in the future
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I don’t see why they can’t when Israel exists.
The copy paste argument doesn’t work when Ukraine has so many post-Soviet modifications with either local or western components.
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I’m torn between yes and no. First of all I want to say that you have done a great job with this post and the tech tree overview.
I’m not against a Ukrainian tech tree, however I am against including some of the western aid vehicles like the Leopard 2 in it (except of the one with the ERA that was photographed in the past weeks).
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I’d rather Ukraine not miss out on any of their Soviet era vehicles, like the first tank Kharkiv produced the T-24 or the BT series of vehicles, I want the tech tree to have as many line ups as it could get.
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Bruh, you seriously? After Gaijin added Israel in game people still complaining about “amount of unique vehicles” for other nations…
Unique vehicles overload in Israel for reference.
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Never agreed with the copy pasted vehicles, but this began with china, not israel. Despite all, israel is a major arms producer so it does have a future in war thunder as a tech tree.
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This is just idiotic, it would make sense if we had RUSSIA instead of the USSR in game, then I’d agree.
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