They’re popular because they’re versatile and effective vehicles.
I cant say anything on your BMP claim(s).
The BTRs used by UA are mostly the ZTM-1 30mm autocannon, ie the 2A72, not the 2A42, mostly. And considering the fact that I believe UA does not possess any APDSFS ammunition for their 30mm caliber such as the ammunition on the BMP-2M, the best they could theoretically have is APDS or stock AP ammunition.
Far from overpowered.
He means “fundamental” because he’s talking about modern warfare, in real life, not in game.
If relatively lightly armoured, fast, armed troop carriers were not instrumental in modern mechanised warfare the Soviet design bureaus would never have designed the BMP-1. And the Americans would have never iterated on the idea with their own designs.
It doesn’t really care if the real ukrainian BTR hasn’t got APFSDS because, in game, many tanks have rounds that they shoudln’t.
I am also talking about modern warfare. BMPs are waaaaay outdated and armoured personnal carriers have immense flaws that need to be adressed. Their armour is usually very bad, which mean they can’t fight, they are very tall, which mean they can’t hide.
The BMPs especially are known to be very incomfortable for the troops.
You can’t really use them in modern warfare, they’ll just be huge targets.
@Othgerius I was gonna vote no cause I thought its just gonna be a copy paste from USSR tech tree with modern western tanks at the end and nothing unique at the middle but OP and few others pointed out there are indeed quite a few unique vehicles that can be added. It wasnt politics for me and I think for the most part, it wasnt either for many of them naysayers.
I don’t want to argue since I don’t have the time and it’s not the topic.
And it’s not with me that you have to argue but with its battle results and the people who used it.
BMP-1 with such a module was demonstrated in January 2021, but no information on the future of the project has been published. The Volya module has a standard set of weapons (30-mm automatic cannon, 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, 7.62-mm machine gun, Barrier ATGM). It does not require space inside the combat vehicle.
Volya module
30 mm automatic gun - ZTM-1 (2A72)
7.62 mm PKT machine gun
30 mm automatic grenade launcher AG-17 (KBA-117)
anti-tank missile system “Barrier”
smoke screen system - 902B “Tucha”
Increased ballistic protection of the hull above Level 3 according to STANAG 4569 (12.7 x 108 mm bullet, B32)
increased ballistic protection of the optoelectronic module and the PN-B guidance device - up to Level 2 according to STANAG 4569 (7.62 x 54 mm bullet, B-32)
as long as they didnt get matched with russia all the damn time sure why not. but this is gaijin we are talking about so they would just get special treatment and be buffed to hell and back
Just learned of this tank it is the Object 477 it was a proposed project for a next generation MBT developed between 1993-2014 though it never left the prototype stage
Nothing in comon with Obj 120, except the use of a 152mm gun (which is not the same and doesn´t use the same ammo). Its one of the crazy late soviet MBT prototypes, along many others.
Well ammo compartmentalization wasn´t yet a design priority. As the decade went forward, more and more prototypes started going in that direction, eventually leading to Object 195.
The main weapon of Object 477 was the 152-mm LP-81 cannon. Separate-loading ammunition was specially developed for the gun, including sub-caliber shells with a total length of 1350 mm.
