That explain why so many of them were added. You dont want to add ground forces tech tree but Ukraine as nation.
I mean, enjoy but this will end up like every other tank tech tree suggestion ever - not added.
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It doesn’t really care if the real ukrainian BTR hasn’t got APFSDS because, in game, many tanks have rounds that they shoudln’t.
I am also talking about modern warfare. BMPs are waaaaay outdated and armoured personnal carriers have immense flaws that need to be adressed. Their armour is usually very bad, which mean they can’t fight, they are very tall, which mean they can’t hide.
The BMPs especially are known to be very incomfortable for the troops.
You can’t really use them in modern warfare, they’ll just be huge targets.
@Othgerius I was gonna vote no cause I thought its just gonna be a copy paste from USSR tech tree with modern western tanks at the end and nothing unique at the middle but OP and few others pointed out there are indeed quite a few unique vehicles that can be added. It wasnt politics for me and I think for the most part, it wasnt either for many of them naysayers.
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Now, you don’t like BMPs in real life? LOL. I think you’re just waiting for someone to start arguing with you…
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I don’t want to argue since I don’t have the time and it’s not the topic.
And it’s not with me that you have to argue but with its battle results and the people who used it.
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I’m not sure if this is mentioned here or not but here we go (It was mentioned on the old forum though)
Apparently a Ukrainian firm has upgraded Egypt’s OT-62 TOPAS’s from APC’s to an IFV, armed with a 30mm autocannon and ATGM’s mounted in/on a turret
Also a Ukrainian firm has upgrade Egypt’s MiG-21MF’s as well but info on said upgrade is quite scarce
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BMP-1 with the Volya module. Early 2021.
BMP-1 with such a module was demonstrated in January 2021, but no information on the future of the project has been published. The Volya module has a standard set of weapons (30-mm automatic cannon, 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, 7.62-mm machine gun, Barrier ATGM). It does not require space inside the combat vehicle.
Volya module
- 30 mm automatic gun - ZTM-1 (2A72)
- 7.62 mm PKT machine gun
- 30 mm automatic grenade launcher AG-17 (KBA-117)
- anti-tank missile system “Barrier”
- smoke screen system - 902B “Tucha”
- Increased ballistic protection of the hull above Level 3 according to STANAG 4569 (12.7 x 108 mm bullet, B32)
- increased ballistic protection of the optoelectronic module and the PN-B guidance device - up to Level 2 according to STANAG 4569 (7.62 x 54 mm bullet, B-32)
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as long as they didnt get matched with russia all the damn time sure why not. but this is gaijin we are talking about so they would just get special treatment and be buffed to hell and back
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Just learned of this tank it is the Object 477 it was a proposed project for a next generation MBT developed between 1993-2014 though it never left the prototype stage
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it looks like a modernised obj 120, on a 64 chassis?
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Nothing in comon with Obj 120, except the use of a 152mm gun (which is not the same and doesn´t use the same ammo). Its one of the crazy late soviet MBT prototypes, along many others.
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The first image is just a T-72 testbed with a 152 2A83 from uralvagonzavod.
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Well here’s a different image lol
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That’s more like it lol. The Object 477 Molot is a beautiful vehicle.
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yeah i just meant like how the ammo was stored and thats the first thing that came to mind lol. its defenitly an intreseting vehicle
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Might be a different gun, the 2A73 (this is what the Molot mounted), which is also 152mm but is an earlier and presumably less powerful gun than 2A83.
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Well ammo compartmentalization wasn´t yet a design priority. As the decade went forward, more and more prototypes started going in that direction, eventually leading to Object 195.
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It may, but after some searching the testbed seems to be linked to the Object 195.
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The main weapon of Object 477 was the 152-mm LP-81 cannon. Separate-loading ammunition was specially developed for the gun, including sub-caliber shells with a total length of 1350 mm.
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seems cool, my initial thought was to say no, but Yontzee’s hard work has payed off and successfully convinved me that this tt is not copy and paste. It is a +1 for me. o7
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