No we don’t, but as far as I’m aware, Ohio doesn’t have a unique ‘ohian’ ethnicity, has no current secessionist desires, doesn’t have its own military air and land component controlled solely by it’s own government independent from Washington, and does not have it’s own diplomatic relations with 182 of the 193 UN member countries.
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Comparing the US to any nation is silly. The, no. THEE MELTING POT? Yeah we gotta cut this ridiculous conversation. Because it’s getting stupider by the minute. It’s as dumb as arguing Rome still exists. They gotta leave my nation outta this. USA! 🇺🇸 Have a good day yall.
Back on topic: That T-64 with the twin barrels would be AMAZIN’.
No we don’t, but as far as I’m aware, Ohio doesn’t have a unique ‘ohian’ ethnicity, has no current secessionist desires, doesn’t have its own military air and land component controlled solely by it’s own government independent from Washington, and does not have it’s own diplomatic relations with 182 of the 193 UN member countries.
Neither did Ukraine in 1964
Neither did the US in 532 BCE but it does now, as does Ukraine.
Neither did the US in 532 BCE but it does now, as does Ukraine.
Your argument doesn’t make any sense. Ukraine SSR, in 1964 when the T-64 was produced, didn’t have any of the things you mentioned (army, foreign relations, secession desire). It was all under Soviet Union, thus T-64 is a Soviet tank, not Ukrainian. The location of the factory is irrelevant.
The Soviets may have had the word “Union” in their name but that doesn’t mean the SSRs were equal to Moscow government. The Ukrainian SSR didn’t come up to Soviet command and presented their new cool tank that they made independently.
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Oh boy, y’all better stop before this suggestion gets closed down, or at the very least a moderator comes in here to tell y’all to stop for the 50th time.
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50th might be underselling it
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Seriously, enough about the political aspects. We get it, some want it in the USSR tree, others want its own tech tree but I’m not trying to get my post permanently locked. Please just post additions of Ukrainian operated and indigenous vehicles that could be added to the tree. If people want ideas on what the consensus is, you can re-read the other 3k posts because I’m sure what you’re thinking has been said at some point.
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I also made a dedicated discussion post for a pre-2022 Ukrainian sub tree. No suggestion yet though.
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With the implementation of the BM Oplot-T for Japan/Thailand, it’s clear that it’s going to be a top predator for Ukraine in-game, the only thing that will hurt is its ammunition choice unless it’s given the P99 TAPNA or EPpSv-97 APFSDS-T rounds.
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The crew which designed T-64 was forwarded to Kharkiv from Tagil (meaning the place where t-72 was designed and is produced for example) by the soviet government with a task to create a new tank, and the government of the USSR and the USSR Army was the one who tested and adopted the tank tho.
Sounds at least silly to say “the t-64 is independent and was made by ukrainian ssr for ukrainian ssr only”.
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well, i doubt it would be the best ukrainian machine. I strongly believe that feller would be the one
the Yatagan uses NATO standart 120mm cannon (meaning it could shoot either US or German ammunition, the M829s or the DM53s sound better than chinese export 125) with better autoloader so i strongly anticipate it`s arrival
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Well, I believe you have seen this picture before, but if someone here doesn’t, here it is:
That’s a photo @KoRoBoCHkA_2 shared, and info in red square appears to say next things (translation):
“A promising Ukrainian development – 125 mm armour-piercing sub-calibre projectile with the Western abbreviation 3BM42U1, featuring increased elongation and a new guidance system for firing from T-80UD and Oplot tanks. The total weight of the projectile – 22.1 kg, length – 740 mm, initial velocity – 1650 m/s.”
If only we could know what is projectile’s weight, we could assume armor pen values, but because 3BM42U1 (= 3BM44U1) appears to not only be longer but has modified shot structure, just using Gaijin pen calculation model is wrong to some extent.
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Inb4 premium or event vehicle.
(To be fair, it is a prototype)
T-64AV will be kinda useless in game if you dont add it with TPD-K1 that was rarely fitted to some.
T-64A is still worse T-72A/T-72M1 at same tier, both of these can also be added to Ukraine TT as Ukraine operated a big amount of T-72’s even T-72B’s before 2010’s.
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This always leads nowhere as the actual round probably never exited mock up stage.
Even on the image provided it says mockup on the round.
A box in a Boxer this size being crewless for what? Three crewmembers at best of the situation (It reads tuna can size of situation) in the chassis, spare me a dime, I don’t think it’s crewless at all.
But hell, it’s a nice vehicle I’d love to see, which could’ve been better than the Boxer MGS Cockerill 3105 ‘Mobile Sniper’ event previously.
I mean, mock-up or not, if precise data, specifically on projectile weight and possible efficency, is present, we can still have a chance of acquiring this round in game (we ain’t 1:1 with real state of things anyway).
Don’t want to be that guy, but we have an ultra-realistic AGM (cough Kh-38MT cough) that devs cannot properly tweak for gazillion’s update in a row because not all real results were ever available online, so devs use guesstimation.
the tweaks they have been giving it is from ad brossures that was literally found in same thread that was stating the missile to be fake.
Like nearly everything this community ever complains about is caused by the community itself.
sniffs a line of copium
I want to be part of that community that makes Ukrainian tanks shoot better rounds than 3BM42 without necessity of getting foreign rounds, even if they might have not existed in finished state