https://www.luch.kiev.ua/en/production/air-weapons/alta-helicopter-antitank-missile-system
I know there is a discussion about ground vehicles here, but I couldn’t find a similar discussion about aviation, so I’ll leave it here.
in case anyone is interested
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T-64E my beloved
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i need some help here, supposedly the 3bm44u1 and 125g1 design and data was shown in the IDEX 1999, but i cannot for the life of me find any relevant/related photos of any ukranian designs there, would anybody have photos or anything related any of these shells?
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9A310M1 self-propelled launcher from the Buk-M1 system with RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles in a shelter somewhere near the frontline
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it looks like something straight out of Horizon Zero Dawn lying in wait for a unsuspecting smaller robot
Here we have a most peculiar creature the 9A310M1 lying in wait for unsuspecting prey it is an ambush predator.
A prime example of millions of years of evolution perfectly designed to kill. However she is not hunting for just herself she is caring for 2 cubs the last of a litter of 8 if she isn’t successful in the kill then her 2 remaining cubs will go hungry this winter.
Ok now imagine David attenborough’s voice is narrating this. Also I’m sorry I had to because it looks like a predator waiting in ambush lol.
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This information is confidential… I can only mention that in Ukraine, new shells have been developed that can penetrate 4 out of 5 tanks. The designs and prototypes have been shared with the Bundeswehr and the US Marine Corps—somewhere in Europe.
Additionally, the 105mm caliber has also been adopted into service. (Improve)
And the most intriguing part: the AGS-30 (VOG-17) has been modified and now successfully shoots down drones of ANY type. The range issue is currently being addressed, which remains the only drawback for now. Progress is being made.
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This is an older modification that has already been improved.
The USA showed significant interest in the solution during work with the “Duplet-2M” system.
The new modification is different from the one installed on Abrams, Bradleys, and other equipment. However, it covers a larger area, which increases the silhouette!
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100% in favor of Ukrainian vehicles being added but we don’t need another “Israel” situation with the tree starting at rank 4. I’d rather see the actually unique Ukrainian vehicles added to an Eastern European tree like what was leaked almost a month ago. Since politics does affect the game i think a multi national tree would be the best case scenario and it cuts out the unnecessary fat that comes with adding Soviet vehicles because a lot of countries developed unique modifications for their equipment and it would allow for the tree to possibly start at rank 1
Eastern European tree just kills off potential for other trees that could have their own -1
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There is no one nation left that could have a full TT that isn’t copy and paste for half of its progression. Poland for example did have its own Tank force and Airforce when WW2 started and after the USSR fell but their rank 1-5 would be full with copies of British, American, and Soviet vehicles already ingame. If you do an Eastern European tree you have more diversity and the tree would actually be eye-catching instead of being known as “China 2.0” or “Israel 2.0”. The air tree might be a little copy and paste but you’ll still have unique aircraft that people would want like the L-39 from the Czech Republic.
Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia can both have their own, no need to add them to a tech tree dumping ground.
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The problem with the Czechoslovakian tree at least from this suggestion (1st picture), they lack top tier MBTs and a decent chunk of their rank 2-5 relies on weak versions of more modern vehicles or just straight up copies of things we already have
The Yugoslav tree isn’t much better off in my opinion, from the suggestion I found posted last year (2nd picture) they also use a lot of vehicles already ingame at the lower tiers
The reason I want the EE tree is that you could combine both of these PLUS other vehicles that could give you line ups that could rival the Russian tree when it comes to the sheer amount of spawns while also plugging gaps that don’t absolutely need to be filled with Tanks people have been playing for the better part of 11 years now, versatility is what makes tech trees interesting.
This version of the proposal is ofcourse quite outdated, as it has been updated multiple times since its release. Czechoslovakia will have Leopard 2A8 as its toptier MBT (quite possibly produced under license), aswell as whatever Slovakia may choose in the near future
What exactly do you consider ,more modern vehicle" I mean, sure, there are some post-war vehicles, but its not like there is some crazy number of late cold-war vehicles. OT-62 is basically modified version of the BTR-50 based on 1949 PT-76. OT-64 was preety modern for its time, but its still from early 60s. MR-2 Viktor is indeed preety modern (entered service last year or so), but its a damn pickup with dual KPVT machineguns, whose development started during WW2. Same with Tatra 815 KS-19 - truck from 1980s armed with 1948 cannon, and Tatra 815 SOT - Again a 1980s truck armed with WW2 DsHK, mid-cold war grenade launcher and machinegun. I could maybe see a problem with some rank V MRAPs, but those can easily be left out of the tree if it was to be added.
Every single tree we have in the game has copy-paste vehicles. Czechoslovakia would be no exeption, BUT, there would be very little actual copy-pastas. The ground tree itself can actually work without any unmodified (copy-paste) foreign vehicles, as long as we put some paper designs in there (i created such a suggestion too after all :) Czechoslovak ground tree - #153 by TADAMAT)
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oh ok thanks for sending that, this version I can 100% support being a separate TT, don’t know how filled out the Air TT would be
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Air tree would be worse, both when it comes to uniqueness and number of vehicles, but there would still be a lot of low-tier unique planes, aswell as some preety interesting cold war/modern warplanes (Czechoslovakia was a leader exporter of trainer jet aircraft after all, and made some light combat aircraft too), and the tree wouldnt be any smaller than other minor nations we have in the game.
Extended version of my proposal shows the potential of the tree the best i think (there are even some paper planes, aswell as future aircraft that are nowhere near to being added into the game currently (F-16V Viper, F-35A): Czechoslovak air tree - #40 by TADAMAT
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yeah F-16V would have Aim-9X and Aim-120B or C so thats gonna have to wait at least another year. F-35 is one of the few aircraft I have absolutely no problem with being in almost every tree because only 3 nations ingame have their own 5th gen designs so it would be necessary due to balance reasons.