Is there a chance to update the first post (description of the proposal)? A lot has changed since the thread was created. New people come in, see the T-34-85 and IS-2 at the forefront of the Ukrainian tree, and immediately, without reading the thread, write about “copy-pasting.” This also affects the voting. Most don’t even know about the proposal to split the Soviet tree into post-Soviet countries, which, in my opinion, is the only solution to the issue with aircraft in the Ukrainian tree. It also completely solves the “copy-pasting” issue in the ground tree.
The description has included other options like the “compromise” since I released the original suggestion on the old forum from last year. People see copy/paste vehicles regardless if I change the description or not and automatically go straight to complaining about it or “how Ukraine is a former USSR state and should go there”, etc. I do want to thank all those who take the time to read the suggestion and understand it in full before voting.
I do agree, the suggestion is due for a rework which I’ve slowly been working on over-time. Please stay tuned 🙂
P.S. As for aircraft, there will have to be copy-paste in that tree but with new additions such as the F-16AM and Mirage 2000-5F, etc. on-top of Ukrainian modifications such as the MiG-29UM2, and Su-27S1M, etc., I hope that will help ease people’s concerns.
Given we have Georgian 🇬🇪 vehicles in this tree, the cooperation between the two countries and similar “geopolitical realities” between them, we could add the Su-25KM to the Air-Tree aswell.
Israeli Opher, Lizard LGBs
Modern Cockpit
NATO Compatibility (ie, RWR)
R-73s
This would be the tree’s AMX-1A, which also uses the Israeli Lizard bombs
I’m actually working on updating the tree right now, so I’ve already made a tech tree template for it.
Ukrainian Leopard 2A4CAN (we already seen this one last summer on different photos)
Ukrainian T-72AV
Sick. I hope we see the BTR-70DI that has the Zaslin APS equipped with a BM-7 or similar module.
Currently it has the 14.5mm KPVT Machine Gun, 2x Ready-to-Fire Barrier-212 (RK-2S) ATGM’s with 2x spares, a 30mm KBA-117 Grenade Launcher, and coaxial KT-7.62mm machine gun. There is a version of the BTR-70DI equipped with a Ingul Remote Weapon Station that does have a 30mm autocannon on it, it doesn’t have the APS equipped.
It gets apfsds as well lol
Don’t we already have that? I’m sorry, I’m in another service. That’s why I can’t physically keep up with it. and the situation does not allow it!
Yes*, on the MTLB chassis as the first vehicle!
This can replace it, but shouldnt be another independent vehicle
The BTR-94 is a better platform in all aspects
In game? We have the same weapons system on the MTLB in the Soviet tree.
Just thought I would post it
As your own tree - no. there is no point in this and we will have a second clone wars tree + a lot of Ukrainian modernizations of Soviet equipment, they are not that interesting and will not bring anything new to the game, in fact these are simple T64/72s and 80s that are already in the game. Therefore, it is better to place them in the Soviet tree, like Russian, Syrian, Czech tanks and so on.
Stop with offtopic please.
I will definitely add this vehicle in the upcoming tree update.
Also, thinking of adding the BTR-7 (Parus) as like a 8.7 BR vehicle since many of them aren’t equipping the Barrier-212 ATGM system. Pretty much a wheeled autocannon boi.
Ukrainian T-90M
Possible candidate for premium vehicle since it’s a second one that is actually in service.
He’s not needed.
What do you mean?
What he means is the IRL sentiments