Ukraine Ground Forces Tree

Is there a chance to update the first post (description of the proposal)? A lot has changed since the thread was created. New people come in, see the T-34-85 and IS-2 at the forefront of the Ukrainian tree, and immediately, without reading the thread, write about “copy-pasting.” This also affects the voting. Most don’t even know about the proposal to split the Soviet tree into post-Soviet countries, which, in my opinion, is the only solution to the issue with aircraft in the Ukrainian tree. It also completely solves the “copy-pasting” issue in the ground tree.

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The description has included other options like the “compromise” since I released the original suggestion on the old forum from last year. People see copy/paste vehicles regardless if I change the description or not and automatically go straight to complaining about it or “how Ukraine is a former USSR state and should go there”, etc. I do want to thank all those who take the time to read the suggestion and understand it in full before voting.

I do agree, the suggestion is due for a rework which I’ve slowly been working on over-time. Please stay tuned 🙂

P.S. As for aircraft, there will have to be copy-paste in that tree but with new additions such as the F-16AM and Mirage 2000-5F, etc. on-top of Ukrainian modifications such as the MiG-29UM2, and Su-27S1M, etc., I hope that will help ease people’s concerns.

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Given we have Georgian 🇬🇪 vehicles in this tree, the cooperation between the two countries and similar “geopolitical realities” between them, we could add the Su-25KM to the Air-Tree aswell.

Israeli Opher, Lizard LGBs
Modern Cockpit
NATO Compatibility (ie, RWR)
R-73s

This would be the tree’s AMX-1A, which also uses the Israeli Lizard bombs

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Solid idea 🤙

Didn’t even know this thing existed @Merkko.

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I’m actually working on updating the tree right now, so I’ve already made a tech tree template for it.

Spoiler

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Ukrainian Leopard 2A4CAN (we already seen this one last summer on different photos)

Ukrainian T-72AV


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Ukrainian BTR-70M with BM-7 combat module

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Sick. I hope we see the BTR-70DI that has the Zaslin APS equipped with a BM-7 or similar module.


Currently it has the 14.5mm KPVT Machine Gun, 2x Ready-to-Fire Barrier-212 (RK-2S) ATGM’s with 2x spares, a 30mm KBA-117 Grenade Launcher, and coaxial KT-7.62mm machine gun. There is a version of the BTR-70DI equipped with a Ingul Remote Weapon Station that does have a 30mm autocannon on it, it doesn’t have the APS equipped.

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Zu-23-2 (M113)
To rival Zu-23-2 (MTLB)

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It gets apfsds as well lol

Don’t we already have that? I’m sorry, I’m in another service. That’s why I can’t physically keep up with it. and the situation does not allow it!

Yes*, on the MTLB chassis as the first vehicle!
This can replace it, but shouldnt be another independent vehicle
The BTR-94 is a better platform in all aspects

In game? We have the same weapons system on the MTLB in the Soviet tree.

Just thought I would post it

As your own tree - no. there is no point in this and we will have a second clone wars tree + a lot of Ukrainian modernizations of Soviet equipment, they are not that interesting and will not bring anything new to the game, in fact these are simple T64/72s and 80s that are already in the game. Therefore, it is better to place them in the Soviet tree, like Russian, Syrian, Czech tanks and so on.

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Stop with offtopic please.

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BTR-4 BM2-30

Ukrainian combat module BM-2-30_5

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I will definitely add this vehicle in the upcoming tree update.

Also, thinking of adding the BTR-7 (Parus) as like a 8.7 BR vehicle since many of them aren’t equipping the Barrier-212 ATGM system. Pretty much a wheeled autocannon boi.

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Ukrainian T-90M

Possible candidate for premium vehicle since it’s a second one that is actually in service.

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He’s not needed.

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What do you mean?

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What he means is the IRL sentiments