Sure, they can do it, but in my opinion that will be just another can of worms and another case of discussion of how effecient it would be IRL based on assumptions, just another things for people to argue about.
One is HEAT and other is Kinetic, HEAT value is simply set by devs, but the APDSFS has to have most of its values preset just to determine it’s effectiveness.
I am fine with implementing it, but, again thats just a can of worms.
Point still stands as the point was made without the ERA in general, as if it was set off by previous shots.
Meaning, T-84 will have slightly less effectiveness versus KE than T-80BV/U but at the same time will be much prone to HEAT.
Though, I am mistaken about HSTV-L point, I admire that.
You’re confusing me
As I have said, yet without ERA (as in case of it being shot out) the protection against KE will be slightly less , against HEAT it will be worse.
What is the part that confuses you?
The initial point was talking about a case without ERA to begin with.
Let’s talk in personal correspondence
I was at work, I didn’t have time…but literally I wrote “it looks like this” in the picture 478DU2 in Abu Dhabi in 1995…but outwardly they are not much different…
478DU4/Variant of the T-84 for the Greek tender in 1998.
Good idea, good post, very good research, but unfortunately for now at least Ukraine tech tree would be a bad idea and we all know why
In the magazine “Equipment and Armament” number 12-2007 there is a review article by Tarasenko about Armored Vehicles of Ukraine for that period, it’s about everything…
Thanks
This is a project (roadmap), in the future the Oplot-M.
1.Oplot-M in a single copy was adopted in 2009 under the full name (which is rarely used)-"Improved BM tank “Oplot”…In the “folk art” T-84U or T-84M…The improved one is written with this letter-УU)…
2. As I wrote above, in relation to 478DU9, such a designation was not officially used…
What’s better… Kharkov’s website, or @btvtnarodru17?
We aren’t talking about the Oplot-M, are we? You can still argue that’s an 84U, but that’s a further upgrade of the base DU9, which was referred to as the T-84U.
No T-84 is referred to as the T-84M except for a 1-off drawing of some Moderna-esque abomination that seemed as if it was straight from Ural in the late '90s.
Yes, as I quoted… T-84U. The improved one being the 478DU9[-1].
See the attached link in the comment you’ve replied to.
You are probably reading with a translator and the chronology of events escapes you…
1.In this article from the site it is nowhere indicated that 478DU9 is = T-84U…
2. Further, at the beginning of the article it is indicated under what name the T-84 was adopted in 2000…
3. Next comes the description of the roadmap for the improvement of the T-84 under the code T-84U.
4. All these improvements were implemented on 478DU9-1 under the new code Oplot-M…
5.Oplot-M (478DU9-1) was adopted under the name “Improved tank BM Oplot” in 2009 …
6. Respectively, there are-T-84/BM Oplot and BM Improved Oplot…
7. At the bottom of the info site 2001-2007 …
8.BM Oplot.1998-2000 …
I’m reading it just as it is.
В частности, была внедрена более совершенная тепловизионная система, а также спутниковая система навигационного обеспечения, независимый лазерный дальномер для командира танка, современная система учета изгиба канала ствола и др.
I’d imagine this refers to the previous mention of the T-84U, no? It has superior foreign optics, a commander independent optics + LRF, as well as an MRS attachment on the barrel… All of which were mentioned.
And? The first T-84 to be put into service was done so in 2000, though what does that have to do with the prior statement?
So… What?
No, it’s not like that…The tank was adopted under the name BM Oplot. In 2000, after that, there are no T-84s.
Accordingly, a program is being implemented to improve the BM Oplot tank (Object 478DU9).
I am not sure, but possiblu he is referring to a DU5 version, which was as well as 478N participating in Turkish MBT tender
Weird, my post was deleted. Again, they found the Azovets Armored Fighting Vehicle buried and excavated it. It gives us more images of the limited-information vehicle. Likely around 10.7-11.3 due to being equipped with heavy ERA, several ATGM’s and cannons. I can imagine that we should see some more images of the vehicle including of the interior come out. Links provide more information and a video. No political references intended, post is solely for the vehicle due to its uniqueness.
Event vehicle?
The T-84 was put into service in 2000 under the name T-84 and only in the future, for marketing reasons, was renamed BM Oplot.
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Aha : D
This should probably be addressed too, unless the T-84 thing has just for simplicity for the common reader
This is your Personal opinion… - The Operation Manual is not an Official document on the adoption of the tank into service…
