I looked over the topic a bit more, I think Blastertitans idea would make sense, only thing I’d worry about is not being able to queue with a friend using another nation such as Kazakhstan, Belarus or Russia, not sure if this was a limitation or not, Iirc it wasn’t, just a unforeseen one.
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PT-91 Twardy of the 10th Operational Corps, Armed Forces of Ukraine
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Ukraine is just a copy and paste of USSR for literally all the ranks until VII, so why bother copying an existing tech tree when it could be a subtree? I’m not opposed to the idea of getting Ukraine’s T84 Oplot and T64BV though.
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If the vehicle is functionally different in game, it’s not really copy-paste.
Would you call the STRV-122s all copy paste? Especially when most, if not all, they have been thoroughly modified and have relative advantages in key areas.
That’s very close to what Ukraine does with Soviet-stock equipment.
Apart from producing their own stuff.
And having soviet-stock equipment we don’t have in game.
And vehicle types* we don’t have in game at all.
*Objectively (I consider an MRAP or BRDM with an ATGM system mounted different than what is available)
In some aspects, I would consider the modification done to Soviet-stock equipment even more extensive and/or effective than the modification done to Leopards serving as STRV-122s.
New engines, armour, transmissions, sights and ammunition.
A whole lot.
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Still trying to figure out how Azovets, BMT-72, Oplot family, BTR-3/4 family and so on are copy paste
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There is as much in common between the T-84 and Soviet tanks as between the T-80 and T-62.
If you compare the T-80 and T-84, the only thing left in common is the hull.
T-84
I won’t even write about BM Oplot.
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Maybe it would be fruitful to make a seperate post about the alleged “copy paste” in this same area of the forum as it is constantly being raised as a point of contention?
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sorry for my english
You are very wrong. Ukraine developed and modified a lot of equipment, for example: T-55AGM, BVMP-64 (there are many versions of this BMP), BVMP-84, T-72-120 and so on. Yes, the equipment was in small copies, but its variety is very rich.
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Ukraine tech tree would be hella interesting, especially since they currently have a tank of every country including captured Russian ones. They’ve also done a lot of modifications to their existing platforms including ERA packages to Western tanks they’ve received.
There’s also new 2023 variants of the T-72, T-80, and T-90 for Russia, but most of them are just cope cage upgrades.
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Back to the topic.
New photos of two additions to the Ukrainian tree, currently serving in AFU.
M1167 HMMWV with TOW
M1A1SA Abrams with ARAT ERA
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Calm down boiz. Opinions are okay, we won’t all agree to the historical/political aspects so be careful to not get yourselves banned/flagged. Please keep it peaceful.
Soviet Union vehicles used by Ukraine are acceptable as other nations like Israel, Italy, etc. use a decent amount of U.S. vehicles/derivatives or similar situations for other nations. It’s just about moderation.
On a side note to address these concerns, I’m working on a tree with @HIMARS_Enjoyer which focuses on eliminating some clones to focus on indigenous vehicles however, some clones will be used as they were utilized since the founding of post-Soviet Ukraine or to add some diversity due to Ukraine’s receiving of Western equipment. Starting Rank adjustments will also be made as well or at least experimented with i.e. Rank V.
I also will be looking at more modern SPH’s capabilities that could be added in-game later such as an actual artillery mechanic and how that would affect the BR’s of all these vehicles.
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I would set the t-64e to either 10.7 or 11.0. His Duplet stands like on the BM Oplot. And the T-72mp has a knife. Plus added t-72AV as well as 72AG and AGM.
And perhaps I would add captured tanks. t-72b3 of different years, t-90a, t-80bvm, t-90am and m. In regimental equipment, for example. But this will cause many problems.
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That is indeed an option. But on the other hand T-90M is totally unneeded in the tree, even as pack\premium vehicle because Oplot is technically better, so drama is easily avoidable.
T-90a also adds nothing over T-72B3 and is better suited to be another meme pack in US tree.
Trophy Т-72B3’s on the other hand, make a non-insignificant part of current AFU tank park so IMO it could be a paid\squad option, for those who want it.
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Agree). Yes, and the T-90 meme is, of course, funny, but after Brihma, it seems that nothing is impossible). And Ukraine, unlike the United States, can operate these machines, and there are already quite a lot of the same T-90A and 80bvm. It could be entered for quantity, but I doubt that the developers would take such a step.
To be honest, I would completely separate the American-European server from the Russian one and then there would be no problems).
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According to two recent videos and article on Defense Express, Leopard 1A5 BE was spotted in Ukraine.
I guess some people waited for it in the game, but it might appear in totally unexpected tech tree ;)
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T-72AV of the AFU outfitted with a British designed and manufactured mineplow.
Sorry about the quality.
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Unfortunately ground drones are a no go for Gaijin unless its an April Fools event or something. However, they’re going to have to change that opinion as many country’s shift to autonomous/remote control weapon systems. I’m all in for it.
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Ladies and gentledudes, I have here yet another reason we NEED the Ukrainian ground forces TT
BEHOLD…
MAN 8x8 with KS-19 100mm AA gun!!!
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Is this a continuation of “Oksana” project perhaps?
KS-19 100mm AA gun on Tatra 815 base which was shown in the fall of 2023
Additional video footage from Territorial Defense forces training.
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