Haven’t found this in this thread (maybe my search skills failed me), but noticed new Militarniy article, which quoted British MoD press release about high effectiveness of surface launched ASRAAM system:
In summer 2022, a joint MoD-MBDA team developed air defence systems to fire ASRAAM from the ground for the first time. Within four months of initiating the surface launched ASRAAM project, these air defence systems were developed, manufactured, trialled and Ukrainian crews trained on their usage, on UK soil, before being transferred into Ukrainian hands.
The surface launched ASRAAM project has demonstrated the best of British engineering ingenuity and the agility of MOD and British industry to rapidly deliver very effective yet low-cost solutions to the frontline to meet urgent requirements. The systems have proven highly effective – with a successful hit rate reported as high as 90% against some air targets. Ukrainian operators have become adapt at their usage and have asked for more missiles to protect their country.
Since it was created specifically for Ukraine, and actively used here, it fully deserves to be in the Ukrainian tech tree.
Quick search on Ru forum didn’t show any results. There were few mentions of this system on this forum, but in context of adding it to the British ground forces, which is kind of ridiculous, since it’s a quick and budget ersatz system, made specifically for Ukrainian AA needs and UK will never need it or use it domestically.
It was a suggestion to uk due to not having a good spaa but it would be better in Ukrainian tree if that comes but the post was under the assumption that it would go to UK as it the most fitting tree that is in the game right now
It is difficult to find information about Nizh or Duplet ERA, especially tests and reliable performance measurements.
Do you have a timeline of tests for the ERAs?
I know there was a test in 2008 for Duplet…
One in 2003 for Nizh then….
I have searched further but maybe this link is the best I could get, although I am sure you are aware!
I looked over the topic a bit more, I think Blastertitans idea would make sense, only thing I’d worry about is not being able to queue with a friend using another nation such as Kazakhstan, Belarus or Russia, not sure if this was a limitation or not, Iirc it wasn’t, just a unforeseen one.
Ukraine is just a copy and paste of USSR for literally all the ranks until VII, so why bother copying an existing tech tree when it could be a subtree? I’m not opposed to the idea of getting Ukraine’s T84 Oplot and T64BV though.
If the vehicle is functionally different in game, it’s not really copy-paste.
Would you call the STRV-122s all copy paste? Especially when most, if not all, they have been thoroughly modified and have relative advantages in key areas.
That’s very close to what Ukraine does with Soviet-stock equipment.
Apart from producing their own stuff.
And having soviet-stock equipment we don’t have in game.
And vehicle types* we don’t have in game at all.
*Objectively (I consider an MRAP or BRDM with an ATGM system mounted different than what is available)
In some aspects, I would consider the modification done to Soviet-stock equipment even more extensive and/or effective than the modification done to Leopards serving as STRV-122s.
New engines, armour, transmissions, sights and ammunition.
A whole lot.
Maybe it would be fruitful to make a seperate post about the alleged “copy paste” in this same area of the forum as it is constantly being raised as a point of contention?
