might be because the creator isnt active in this thread anymore and isnt updating it, and putting era on everything they get hardly qualifies as real modifications and just would be a lazy reasoning of you guys to still add it
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thats what i am saying the whole time, ukraine has plenty good enough vehicles themself, maybe stuff like the leo 2a4 era could be a premium, but they shouldnt be their main vehicles, donated vehicles should stay out of the tech tree
Maybe, maybe. But anyway, not a single person i know was upset about clones
then you realy dont seem to be active here or reddit, for ground at least C&P is a hated thing, for air there is sadly no other way because we reached the point where only a few actual manufacturers are left:
But specialy ground and tanks has so many unique additions left that could be added where C&P isnt necesary
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That’s not very clever idea. Gaijin already put many donated vehicles into main branches
which ones do you specialy mean? you dont mean the east german equipment do you? In general i would devide ww2 /cold war situation over modern top tier stuff
Same T-34’s , ISU-152 , Shermans , Crusaders, Stuart etc
so just what i stated, top tier has different rules for additions we dont see captured vehicles at top high/top tier either, only vis mods if you wanna count that
vismod is fine, that`s just funny thing
Here is a photo of the same Leopard 2A6 during battle, judging by the square white markings on the turret. It’s a different tank. Therefore, it can be argued that adding protection to the turret is widespread.
As for the last suggestion, I believe that Western tanks should be premium or event vehicles. Only those that were supplied to Ukraine in significant quantities (at least 30-40 ) should be included in the main tech tree.
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well would be at least a discussable thing, it would mean they get the 2A4, with unqiue ERA, but the tree would not receive strv 122, leopard 2a6, challengers or abrams tanks
M1A1 FEP inside a dug in position, somewhere in Ukraine.
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Just wanted to post it)
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Final modification of Ukrainian AHS Krab self-propelled tracked howitzer with protective net and camouflage net
Ukraine has approximately 54 AHS Krab
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Honestly I think other countries with more interesting stuff should be prioritised as a possible independent tech tree in the future, such as Spain. In my opinion, Ukraine has nothing that’s really interesting, it’s all mostly modified T-72, T-80, BMP and BTR.
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In all fairness, but spain isnt a great example either. Korea , poland are more likely they still got unqiue mbt options while spain is copy paste as well
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Spain has original vehicles during all time periods. The Leopard 2A4 or the Leopard 2E would not be the only choices available, you could also add special AMX-30 modifications (such as “El Niño”) or even introduce the Lince MBT project.
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I have to disagree with you, Ukraine and Spain have the same uniqueness. Spain is modernizing and adapting Western tanks to its needs, and Ukraine is doing the same with T-64/72/84, etc. The only difference is that the Ukrainian army is younger, since Ukraine only gained independence in 1991.
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Well I mean, wouldn’t that make Spain have a preference for being a country with more vehicles to add? From Panzer 1 and CV-33/35 variants, to very special M41 concepts, plus tons of M47 versions and really interesting prototypes (such as an attempt to design a adaptation of the M47 to an artillery vehicle). I can agree on the Leopards though, they’d be a copypaste.
(I’m not saying Ukraine has no place in WT, but at least to me, it’s become really frustrating to see how countries with a very limited ammount of original vehicles were added before others that were a much better choice are even considered imo).
Actually I’ve looked into Spanish tanks some time ago and constructed a tech tree as a side project. I can say Its not enought to make a fulfleged tree, and there is a big gap between 3.7 Pz.IV H and M24 up to 5.7 with M56 and 6.0 with M41E. It would be perfect as a sub-tree, tho I don’t know where it should go. Both nations should wait, there are better options such as Yugoslavia or United Korea for example.
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