Lowering it would actually make it less effective against tanks. At 7.7 it would see more heavy tanks that have better armor.
The APDS round it fires is the same as the one the Fox has, and I can tell you that the Fox is more deadly at 8.3 because it faces more tanks with less armor.
He literally said remove the APDS. Which is the entire reason why the Falcon is seen as a menace. Without the APDS it’s actually worse than the VEAK 40 and ZSU-37-2, and I’d be fine with that if that means I can actually have an effective SPAA.
How many variants of the falcon does the UK have? Or they just built one type?
It was a prototype (modified Abbot), never entered service iirc. So no idea if it had any different variants
Ahh then im in favor of removing the APDS and lowering it back to its original Br lvl it once was for balance reasons. There will be bad feedback from those that want to use it as an IFV, but the UK really is lacking a SPAA. Unless there is another nation with a SPAA that can be added in the UK TT, prefer this option than removing things.
It really comes down to what other options there are for 6.0-.7.0 range. A decent SPAA at 7.0 might mean the Falcon can keep APDS with the 30mm rework at like 8.0.
But if there isnt another option and the best we get is something at 6.3 ish. Then lowering it as low as it can go by removing APDS would be ideal.
I wish to know more about this.
Edit: Apparently you weren’t being facetious. There’s a weapon system known as blowpipe.
I had assumed you were joking that “Even some car with a guy wielding a blowpipe (as in: not a modern weapon) would likely help britain’s SPAA struggles.”
Blowpipe was a MANPAD developed in 1975 that used a radio command system rather than IR to guide the missile onto target. Max range about 3km.
Was pretty bad by all accounts. Was replaced by 1993 by the Javelin
hahaha, Nope. Real weapon. Also got the Javelin MANPAD just to confuse people with the Javelin ATGM
Though to be honest, at that BR, a Rover with a Scot wielding a bagpipe would probably be more effective SPAA
We could get a Ratel with the twin russian 23mm guns for a turret found on the bosvark and other stuff.
That would prob be a good 7.0 SPAA, removed the limited angle of fire issue with a fully enclosed crew, though its still a Ratel so like, point blank 7.62 can still pen it.
Bosvark is 5.3, I doubt the Ratel would be as high as 7.0. This is probably 5.7 or 6.0.
The 6.3 - 7.3 gap is a hard one, there’s simply not many good options.
The only other options are basically shoehorning IFV’s/CVRT’s/APC’s with 20mm, 25mm, or 30mm autocannons. Yet even then they’d be pretty similar to the SUB-I-II which is also 5.3.
Basing off other systems of similar note, I would see it being that high simply due to being a relatively mobile platform with good RoF and no real drawbacks.
Also IIRC there is an APDS round for the 23mm right? Would be a funi.
Isn’t it also stabilised?
Look at Kugelblitz. That’s a 7.0 SPAA according to Gaijin. Falcon even without APDS would be a lot better.
Not really. Kugel blitz has double the ammo storage 1200 x 600 shots. better Armor so its much harder to strafe and this is more a bug than a feature but its been unfixed since the kugel was first added to the game so lets just call it a feature at this point - Impossibly small ammo storage. 2 tiny box’s under the seats holding 1200 x 30mm shots. it makes it far harder to ammo detonate a kugel
No.
Maybe for someone who’s only played 3000 battles. My experience every game is very similar to his.
Kugel has worse mobility, way worse gun handling, no stabiliser and worse shell ballistics. Oh and also NO STABILIZER.
It has enough armor to fuse all APHE shells in game, it can survive some .50 cals though, but only if lucky because they can still pierce the turret front.
Kugel also has no APHE shells, and AP-I shell behaves like regular AP because Gaijin can’t properly model incendiary shells.
HVAP gas horrible angled penetration and deals barely any damage.
IMO they are far from equal.
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For me, I’m Not a fan of his content really. I get more depression vibes from all his complaining and whining than excitement, enjoyment and laughter. Not saying he’s bad, he’s getting kills, makes good plays, but he tends to be more negative than positive in most of his videos.
Sounds like a fair idea to me remove the round drop it to 7.3.