Again you are comparing vehicles directly which is an intellectual fallacy :D
What would you say if I pointed out that the Puma’s gun has worse penetration than the Type 90’s, which therefor makes the Puma trash?
Nope, I’m just saying it has better armor than the Type 90. I never said it’s better than the Type 90.
Idk why u guy keep arguing when about the vehicle itself when the issue is top tier compression, the br should have been 13.0 and not 12.7 so that the actual top dog like 2A7, 122B+ and such can be there away from anything below 12.0.
Decompression is an issue that is not so easy to solve when you dive deeper into it, many vehicles are simply using theoretical performance. One also cannot simply test vehicles to identify Battle Ratings by static tests like frontal penetrations because that is simply not how matches work :)
Then why are you saying the Type 90 is bad at 11.7 when there exists 12.0 vehicles that you consider worse, yet you don’t seem to be saying that the PUMA is a bad vehicle?
At BR 12.3 and above, most mbts typically have rounds with 500mm or even 600mm+ of pen, which mean comparing raw pen irrelevant. It is better to compare armor (and armor coverage), thermal, weak spots, and mobility. Would you argue that the 2A7V and M1A2 SEPv2 should share the same BR?
Anything below 12.0 is generally inferior in almost every aspect even with only a 0.3 BR difference. They often had worse ammo, worse thermal, and worse armor. 13.0 should have been the new top br so that top tier is insulated around 12.0 - 13.0.
and yet, of all these factors, none of them consider map and player positioning :)
Because we all know Gaijin map are crap and only have like 3 presets of how they made it, BR should be based off vehicle performance and not player performance.
It’s not bad at 11.7; it’s bad at 12.7. That’s what I’m trying to say. What are you, one man?
I don’t have anything to say against the Puma; I’m just saying the Puma has better protection than the Type 90.
Your core problem is expecting a tank to be good when it is fully uptiered :)
Yeah, the problem is it always gets uptiered while having 10.3 specs.
To be fair, the Puma have much better protection compare to many other mbts
you mistake potential vehicle strategies for player performance :)
And yet you yourself said it is not bad at 11.7? Which is it?
So let me make this clear: the Type 90 is at 11.7 now, and there’s no solid 12.0 or 12.3 lineup in any TT. It always gets 12.7. We’re saying it’s bad at 12.7, not at 11.0, or 10.7. Jeez, man.
Then it’s the same problem, you’re expecting a fully uptiered tank to perform well. :)
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Dropping it back down introduces more problems. :)
Yeah, the only way is decompression, and it wasn’t OP in 11.3, as people claimed.
where u want to put in 11.0? look at he 2a4 … same armor, mobility dm23 , more reload speed, turret basket all shot break u turret… + sfther 100 grade u have 0 depression… type 90 come same time with 2A4 and only 0.3 higher br… or look at he al khalid have pen and mobility the armor is so weak in this br