i think the tank tree is insuferable to grind, there is only sadness in that tree
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It’s called throwing, but I don’t expect kids these days to know what that means.
You still on that absolute braindead mindset of deliberately throwing to lower Russian high tier stats?
You are just mid at best, accepting that now will save you the headache later.
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Same br btw
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Sure, sure, whatever. Mid at best. This game isn’t worth actually putting in effort even for the tech trees I like due to how terribly imbalanced this game is.
Now a balanced game like Hunt: Showdown, on the other hand. That’s worth the effort to perform.
i have one tank on RU tt and has more battle than u bruv(talkin to Panzer btw)
thats absurd
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If Leopard A1 and M60A3 TTS can sit at 9.0, so can T-55AM.
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Than go and play it and dont let Russian TT live rent free in your mind. Only OP thing is the 38MT which doesnt exist, even the range of it is not the problem if it were laser guided since other nations have LJDAM too with 20km range and with GNSS obviously and none talks about those because they arent russian. Removing MT from the line up is something I am definitely for but tanks, they are just sad which doesnt mean they need a buff, they just are sad to use and if you bothered to actually grind to them and use them you would know.
Assuming you have access to top tier air or heli tree at all, if you don’t you suffer on the ground, which you need to do well in to get into an aircraft anyway. Those brimstones work perfectly fine against AA and the amount of times they have kept me from leaving spawn is infuriating.
But I can’t claim to have used Brimstones or Tiger UHT, I’d fully support nerfing or removing the kh-38’s from some aircraft or adding a equivalent Nato missile, but then what are you going to do about the leopard meta? (but would rather not have this sort of armament much at all as the gameplay isn’t enjoyable).
Also Kh-38’s tracking isn’t as foolproof as you might imagine either, it often takes several attempts to acquire the correct target and you have to more or less be flying straight at it.
But you have smaller more maneuverable aircraft with the typhoon that can more reliably manage at closer ranges anyway.
Feel free to nitpick though. Russia and Germany are by no means either Bad nations. But in terms of ground Germany is undertiered, which is what I have been trying to get at. They have 5 of the best tanks in the game and it’s miserable to play against them.
Especially when they also have the comfort of camping objectives and you are forced to play aggressively with your one decent tank, T-80BVM.
wait what? like youre not sure i have access to top tier air or heli?
Brimstones work exactly as well as LGBs against ground targets (or AAs for that matter), trading AoE effect of LGBs for combination of speed and HEAT warhead.
They do well in uncontested airspace. What was the last time you played CAS in uncontested airspace?
unlike helicopter that can engage from semi-concealed position, aircraft with brimstones or LGBs is much more exposed during its attack run. Helicopters also have much easier time keeping the target within its targeting FoV as they, you know, hower in place.
This is the maximall horizontal gimball limit for the Typhoons TGP, not even full 90° to target according to the RWR. Not to mention the fact that entiriety of your upper hemisphere is blocked by the aircraft itself due to TGP being mounted at the bottom of the plane, meaning you cant pull in towards your target without loosing track.
and unlike Kh-38MTs which are FnF, you have to babysit Brimstones for the entire duration of their flight, which at max range of 15km is almost a whole minute due to their abysmal speed.
fun fact, the Brimstone is so slow that i launched it, took the screenshot above, kept flying straight, and by the time i passed the ADATS the missile was still 30 seconds from impact.
so now you either have to
A) be a sitting duck for a whole minute to guide in the brimstone, severely limiting your range of movement as the gimball limit of TGP has a limited window from which it can “see” the target or
B) move closer and launch from well within enemy air defense net, making time to target shorter…and still being sitting duck for the entire duration of the brimstone flight
to fully guide in all your Brimstones to targets from max range would take almost 18 WHOLE MINUTES. if that number doesnt sound absolutely insane to you i dont know what to tell you.
ok but lets suppose you “queue” your brimstones, as in launch one when the other one is still in flight. you still arrive at the same issue of their speed being absolutely abysmal, which means that they wont have energy for any sort of wild flight course changes, less so for tracking a moving target.
so to conclude no, brimstones arent fine in most scenarios.
so do mavericks, but once the missile is off the rails you are free to defend in any way you like. and unlike Kh-38MTs, mavericks dont get IOG so they are easily defeated by smoke. not to mention Kh-38MTs are getting GPS guidance next patch.
again, TGP limits. If it wants to hit target, it needs to keep it in FoV of the TGP.
I suppose do the same thing I was told by BVM players before addition of 2A7V.
Aim for weakspots.
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They can’t do that lmao. If it’s not a blatantly obvious and undermodeled spot like the Abrams turret ring they’ll just flop around and cry until Gaijin does something.
T-55AM is diabolical, so many light vehicles and atgm launchers sit around that BR that the APS completely negates. Then also it’s a very capable tank underneath it.
I was sad to see my 8.7 lineup fall apart, but it’s very fair. That lineup was too good.
So many really good points.
Sorry I don’t really know Brimstones well. I know my own experience on the receiving end and that’s it. I’d often have them launched at me before I was able to track and fire on the EF as they would be using map cover to get very close before launching.
I’d argue the main problem there is very predictable spawn points and the spawn being surrounded by the other team also.
I think it’s gotten off topic though, that’s annoying that T80-BVM users weren’t sympathetic to calls for second opinions on its good armour profile.
What I really want personally for USSR top tier is more solid 12.0 ground vehicle options.
Because there is 3, one has a 4kmh reverse gear, another is a SPAA, the BVM is actually good but still has to be used with all Russian MBT weaknesses in mind.
What that vehicle could be? I’m not sure.
nah, no worry.
people just see 18x missiles and assume it must be crazy good.
see, this would bring the EFT well within the air defense net, and to engage it would need to pop out of cover, find target and then guide the brimstone - and we still arrive at the same issue of Brimstone being SAL and TGP limits.
i think its more of an issue of SAL Brimstones not fitting the meta all that well.
hey, im fully prepared to have sober talk about advantages and disadvantages of any vehicle. sadly from my experience most of the talks here fall into them vs. us trap.
well for entirely new tank designs theres only really armata, and lets be honest, that thing cant be added in balanced state; it will either be the most game breaking thing ever added, or meme.
then there are the prototypes, or different variatns of already existing vehicles, like that T72 thats going to be added in Leviathans with APS. That actually sounds nice.
I spaded 8.7 after the t55 got moved up, think its still solid with t62, 685, and bmp2 + shilka w/ radar. I seen a lot of people trashing the t62 there but aside from the dart having bad post pen it was one of the more fun t series I played, it actually has some reverse and the armor is decent.
Not really.
You set a mark at their spawn and fire off the missile and then hide until the missile is like 4-5s away from the target and at that point you just pop up and laze the target, so Brimstones can be used as a quasi-FnF.
Videos showcasing this have been made months ago, don’t know how you missed those.
38MT doesn’t benefit from the GNSS just like Hammers.
He got brutally exposed and that’s literally the only argument he has left to defend his stance.
I’m performing in line with my account average with these allegedly brokenly OP machines because I’m willingly engaging in unsportsmanlike conduct, and not because they aren’t as strong as I want you to believe.
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Somehow I didn’t realise the T-62 had a 125mm gun for the longest time, often defaulting to T55AM for its survivability.
I had I fun couple weeks abusing them in the weeks before the T55AM nerf and found a lot of fun using them in more of a sniping role, they performed really well.
But yeah still a powerful lineup at 8.7 but it’s also very compelling to build one at 9.0 or even 9.3