Tornado MLU + other variants missing features

New bug related to the STILL broken cockpit camouflage:

With BOZ-102EC

With BOZ-102

Essentially to sum it up, the game thinks that the plane is the 1980s version is in the cockpit (you can even see the old BOZ-102 paint instead of the new low-vis version). Since there is no BOZ-102EC model is different, and the cockpit can only see the 1980s stuff, it literally just does not exist from the cockpit view.

This is really said especially since the MAW pod really made it more useful in sim, where you are obviously going to be seeing the pod from cockpit view more.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0T54Yo1fyGRz
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GXjEMytUUaI9

First link is the incorrect camo from cockpit, second is the new report I made for invisible BOZ-102EC. If you have the time please uptick these, I havent even seen a response from any moderator yet on the old one, much less an acceptance.

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Additionally, I massively overhauled the original post. If anyone wants to make a bug report for the missing features on the tornados please feel free too.

If not, please do uptick existing bug reports that haven’t gotten attention.

does the new BOZ-102EC even work dumping flares/chaff while on MAW or is it bugged?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/S1C3ttZNQncg

Its been accepted like almost all of the other ones, probably will never be fixed

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The maw has been working for me, maybe you have flare dump turned off while MAW is on

You might need to try completely deleting the loadout and remaking it.

Loadouts like to break when adding new external CM pods to them that were unlocked/added after the loadout was created. Had to do it for all my loadouts when I unlocked TERMA on the GR4 and then again when they added BOL

i ve already done it,still doesnt work…i even got flare/chaff unlocked…

Send a video if you can.

It also could be that the flares aren’t dropping when a radar missile is being launched, which is on purpose

Man gaijin gotta be trolling with this ASSTA 3 SLE.

I at this point give up all hope for Italy.

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trolling how?

Sometimes when I change load outs in the tornado it gives me all chaff in the pre-spawn slider. Make sure to adjust the slider before hitting spawn so you can have your flares too.

wanna know something funny? the german MLU is getting its proper RWR, even before its getting introduced, while the italian MLU, after more than 4 months, still has the wrong one (not to mention 1995)

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Gaijin’s decline towards Italy is very clear now, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore…

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@Smin1080p_WT

Hi

Since the developers are working on the new German Tornado, could they also review the bug reports for the Italian RET.8? Some of the existing bugs could likely be fixed easily, as they are already being addressed on a similar model.

Aside from decisions about possible armament (which are, of course, up to them), I noticed Brimstone missiles on the new German Tornado — which, as far as I know, are not currently in service. If Brimstones are going to be fitted to the German Tornado, could you please consider adding that option to the RET.8 as well?

Additionally, it would be fair to introduce the AIM-9 L/I and Li/1 missiles, which have been in inventory since 1992 and are even listed in the F-104 ASA manual. Adding them to the Tornado RET.8 — and possibly to other modern Italian aircraft such as the F-16 ADF etc — would be a nice improvement.

Thanks.
Attachment: excerpt from the 2005 general catalog of Air Force technical manuals, showing that the weapon has been in use since 1992.


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Hey. With this, the devs are going by upgrade programs spesific to the SLE and packages beyond 3.1+ that show / propose brimstone integration as well as cross NATO compatability. So far nothing has been located for the RET.8 in this regard and its at a lower BR.

Similarly with some of the other weaponry you mentioned like IRCCM capable missiles, this would incure a BR Increase.

Other reports will be reviewed in due course, but the devs are focused currently on the outstanding reports for the major update from the dev server.

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Thanks a lot for the clarification — really interesting implementation setup for the new German Tornado, which might open up some nice developments for other variants down the line.

As for the AAMs, that’s obviously more of a wish for now, but the trade-off with the BR is definitely an important topic.

If at least the RWM for the ret.8 could be tweaked in the short term, that would already be great. Thanks!

The German ASSTA SLE getting Brimstones has the same problem as the Eurofighter has though, that they’re still Dual-Mode Brimstone 1s that were a UK-only stop-gap weapon (for Tornado GR.4) pending delivery of Brimstone 2, and were fully replaced and production munitions expended, before Tornado SLE was even in the air (February 8, 2021).

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If gaijin somehow found some vague reference of brimstone on ASSTA SLE, why not give A-200C SCALP EG or at least Lizard IV which it had undeniably used in service and is not some fake reach

Or additionally devs could give the A-200C PGM 500 or PGM 2000 which would be just a reach as brimstones on SLE, if not less of a reach

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They literally removed my post that didn’t say anything bad, just that they are trolling us XD

I think at this point there is no excuse for this behavior from gaijin

So proposed weapons are reportable for other aircraft?

Even with no evidence of actual intergration?