Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

Can’t wait to intercept one Brimstone and get finished off by a Maverick or Kh-38MT, I guess I should’ve smoked and moved lol.

GBAD? also does russia use Chaff in their smoke grenades?

120B and 120A are the exact same ingame

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if pantsir-s1 not exist in wt now it fine. but when pantsir-s1 exist things different.

Ground based air defence

oh fair, I feel like all they need to do it make it so you earn SL and RP for shooting down bombs and AGMs

and are 9Ms and 9L/I the same?

If not, point still stands.

afaik the 9L/i is the same as a 9M just excluding the smokeless motor

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Identical except the 9Ms have the smokeless motor.

ICE has the advantage of better turn performance, better CMs (though less) and better gun compared to the F3. Also has the limited multirole, which is nice in gamemodes like SIM.

F3 has a better radar and slightly higher flat line speed.

They are essentially identical in overall performance and should be the same BR.

Aim120A and Aim120B are 100% identical

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My personally Tornado GR.4 very good guided Air-to-Ground munitions

But lack Enhanced Paveway II & III ?

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honestly the Paveway 4s will probably be better then the enhanced 2s and 3s

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So they are better, even though its as slight as a smokeless motor and potentially better IRCCM/ECCM? Id have to double check the 2nd part.
Just sad to see the states of both these planes, and the ones to come. Seems Germany and UK are in the same boat, but different ocean. Germany lacks any semblance of CAS, UK lacks fighters.
Both nations share the same pain with planes at this point, kind of sad to see how the Tornados have been handled so far.
2 years since IDS MFG, still with broken main weapons.
Premium Tornado
ASSTA1


I can’t think of a reason to NOT add the ASSTA2/3 at this point, especially now with UK getting brimstones.

edit: have no idea why thats bold and big

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Uk atleat has the gripen

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they are more then likely gonna stay a Gimmick weapon where as the Paveway 4s and PGMs will be the actual things you use to kill targets

at least you get the new plane with the new weapons ;)
Germany doesn’t get that choice, and when they did add a new unique weapon, its been broken (As.34 kormoran)

Id say UK is slight better than Germany because of that.
ARH Gripen vs ARH F4F is easy win for Gripen.

Both germany and uk needs the eurofighter typhone both for cas but also as an air to air fighter

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100% agree.
If they don’t want to add fighter EF AND CAS EF, id settle for the fighter, and get the ASSTA3 tornado, which makes the most sense.
Don’t really care about the F18, its cool and all, but I’d like something German for Germany lol.


What DOESN’T make sense is adding more and more fighters/CAS to other nations that literally already have 2-3 copies of EACH

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What are the gimbal limits of the Litening II?

Yeah the f15E and Su34 is built on a fighter airframe but the tornado is built on a bomber so the only good thing about the tornado gr4 is the brimstone and the gbu 4