Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

I think its more that we got the TD instead of them fixing the CR2s or adding the full CR3. It just felt like they deliberately gave us a “new top tier” and then made it as bad as possible on purpose.

We didnt need another MBT and realistically speaking, its barely a side-grade to the 2E or BN, especially since the nerfs for it. DM53 are good, but not THAT good.

I’m fairly sure we got the TD before the actual CR3 prototype was revealed?

Edit: the silver lining is that the TD got the 2E and BN foldered, so the grind there was a little faster while the TD remained a more optional end-of-line

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What can counter an MMW system? If we dont see APS systems and EW suites?

The 6/7 second reload kills the CR3 TD why they buffed the others and left it with one of the slowest reloads and worst armour is madness

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Yep, that might have made it less of a downgrade at times, especially as the CR3TD has a 14 round ready rack.

it got foldered?

i mean man, just took em out a whirl there, HSTVL penned my BN left turret cheek when i was going 59KMPH round a corner, the fact he can hit vaguely near it and pen is a joke.

Or lets talk about how the M1A1 HC and Click bait both get M289A2 at 11.7 which is the second best round in game, 5 second reload, better mobility, far more effective armour due to said mobility.
at a lower BR.

they just do not care about Britain at this stage, i mean look at this, they are moving the ram to britain, due to it being canadian, same as the adats. YET they go against their won word and will not for example add the leopard 2M CAN which i dont want but the hypocrisy is rife, T90A , and mig21 to Britain, due to India, has had very little military relation with Britain for some time.

I would love to see Indigineous British equipment in the tree seeing as how much was actually researched and developed.

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I agree, they need to remove the Pantsir S1 and replace it with the Pantsir S2. This american CAS is out of control.

APS, Ewar, NATO smoke systems that incorporates materials similar in effect to chaff. Then going broader there are GBAD systems with greater reach that could be considered.

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Looks at Su-34 with 6x KH-38 vs ADATS

Sure… Defo US CAS only that is out of control

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no, when Gaijin started folding more vehicles the fact that the TD was in the tree meant that the BN and 2E had to be folded to maintain the “3 main top rank vehicle” thing

gaijin dont accept videos as evidence for or against things, or at least thats what they say.

The challanger 3 tech demonstrator also did have its system integrated as far as i know and what RBSL say on what little information is there for it.

What it didnt have was the digital fire control system etc that only got revealed earlier this year.
And the two sources ive found which are more reports than evidence so take with a grain of salt say the TD still has the Farham armour.

as it was tested with it on, how can a tech demo not have the tech in it to demonstrate it makes 0 sense.

Brightside is ADATS can now double it’s ammo from spawn with the ammo crate stuff.

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Ah, I see

Also Brimstone max range increased to 27km, no other changes (so far)

and its 11.7 rather than 12.0

Yeah, though still nothing you can realistically do vs even a Su-25SM3. It has double your range

which is a very recent change, the folders were made beforehand

Damn, the first USSR aircraft that can even think of competing with the F-16C for lethality… being added in the same update as the F-15E.

The issue lies solely with US aircraft.

It can now actually hit a target out that far?