dont worry the brimstone is so good the US Stream didn’t even try to show it off, they glossed over it and moved onto Paveway IVs.
The game doesn’t count base bombings for one.
Second, ~15 matches were bringing one bomb to attempt the 20km achievement prior to the GPS bomb announcement.
Should I repeat the question? Alright. Сould you clarify how many flights you have on the Su-25SM3? I’m curious how many battles it took for you to conclude that the Kh-38 and the Mav are equivalent.
No, they are gone be shit if they are not fire and forget that’s why they are dead on arrival
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Not much insult in justifiably questioning something in a snarky way. They were all valid questions about the training of the team that is responsible for these choices. Because the decisions the balance teams are making lead me to assume they have either not been given the training, or the time, to make well reasoned balance changes.
And I would like a response to this. Are your balance teams lacking training, or lacking the provisions to do their job properly? Because there are many instances of balancing that you justify with “the statistics said as much” but if we compare the things, they should either be at the same rating or inverse to how your organisation decides to balance them.
It is upsetting that data that has clearly not been sanitised appropriately is being used to create poor outputs. It isn’t hard to see the issues your balancing approach creates, so why does it keep happening instead of updating procedure?
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I just checked this f**ker in game, guess what, he didn’t have su-25sm.
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None, cause I’ve used the type of missiles Su-25SM3 has and I don’t really care about a subsonic CAS again. I also don’t want another Su-25 in general.
I have the Harrier GR7 if I want the Su-25SM3 experience right now.
Launch AGM-65Gs at 4 people, RTB fly up again do it again.
I did it with AGM-65Ds prior.
So to sum up
The 3x Tornados at 11.3 (A200, MFG and WTD61) have 100% identical performance and ARB loadouts to that of the 3x Tornados at 11.7 (GR1, ASSTA1 and A200A) (im choosing to just ignore the minor differences on the GR1 for ease of conversation but the pro/cons of the aircraft mitigate these differences enough to just ignore the differences for now)
No explanation on exactly how the addition of a tpod or laser guided bombs massively increase effeciency was provided
Therefore in the summer, we’re planning to give more clarification and bring this issue up for discussion — whether or not we should reduce the rewards for bases in order to reduce the Battle Rating of aircraft that mainly bomb bases, or leave everything as it is now. Please follow the news for more details on this.
This thread has never appeared to challenge this and attempts to get an answer or clarification on this issue were ignored in the last BR change.
All 6 Tonado IDSs need to be at 11.3 or a reason to have them at different BRs needs to be added. Such as giving them Aim-9Li (which I do not beleive would require a BR different to that of 11.7)
(as it stands I already think too much emphasis is put on what these aircraft can do not what they will do, yes the Tornado can kill 2x bases per match, but they wont even necessarily get 1x base kill every single match, 2 is rarer still)
As for the Torando GR4. The upgrades do constitute a higher BR than 11.3, obviously, but I struggle to place it at 12.0 let alone 12.3.
It is still a Tornado IDS, it is still an 11.3 airframe. HMD wont suddenly mean it will survive a dogfight with an F-16 or Mig-29, etc. Its New A2G wont suddenly make it win matches on score alone (in fact i suspect in ARB, 99% will run the same loadout as they do on the Gr1) As a net gain, the BR increase will harm it far more than the things gained.
When you couple with the lack of 12.3 brackets in sim especially, meaning like the Harrier Gr7 and others at 12.3 It can only play 12.7 or higher, this means it will be directly facing some of the best aircraft in the game on a regular basis. In again, a fairly weak 11.3 airframe given some minor defensive upgrades.
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you underestimate gaijins ability to ignore anything that doesn’t help America or Russia.
I’m more impressed how they could hold a straight face saying the GR4 would be “too good” while dropping the Su-34 and F-15E the same update.
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Oh no! AGM-65s and KH-38s are still OP!
If only they’d add SPAA superior to Pantsir to all 10 tech trees… oh wait, their stats say people are dying to SPAA still cause not enough people fly CAS with survival in mind.
Me begging for better SPAA, and also me begging that CAS players learn how to survive.
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Whilst if the Gripen gets GBU 39s, it would outperform the Gr4 in a strike role.
Kh-38 is entirely different to what Brimstone would be. This is not a good comparison at all.
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It seems rather DOA with the Brimestone not being added it it’s full capability. And it’s a bit wild we haven’t seen ARH missiles yet. Would be nice to have something to at least scare the OP as hell Pantsir.
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yes it is a good comparison because all players are asking is that it gets some degree of FNF modeled instead of none. Preserve the weapons identity.
Also its a good comparison because while the KH38 needs LOS, it blatantly breaks one of the 2 main reasons given against the brimstone “victims and SPAA cant fight it”
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Except it is. It directly demonstrates the double standard.
I use Kh 38, it can strike through smoke. It can also out range NATO AAs. So there’s the 2 issues that your news post is claiming brimstone would be too good if it could do these things.
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Neither of which are better than F-16C at CAS.
the 15E is LEAGUES better than the 16C
same AGM-65 loadout, same AIM-120 loadout with said AGM65s, can also carry a slew of guided bombs on its belly, and its far faster.
it’s also a STRIKE JET so you can run both at the same time.
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Mechanic wise yes, balance wise no. both still pose a threat.
Kh38s can still be launched well outside SAM engagement ranges and some SAMs simply do not see them on radar or can lock them due to lofting parameters. I agree brimstones with radar seeker would be broken but kh38s are very much comparable in a balance perspective and should not exist in the game till we have systems capable of taking them out effectively
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