Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

Object 292? You mean the tank destroyer that costs more due to the medium tank label. Yeah no, not OP.
It’s like Ferdinand or Panzer IV/70. Good tanks, and not OP.

Okay.

You can be offended by the Panzer IV\70 (A) for a long time, but this does not cancel out the “one-sided game” if we start talking about red missiles or SPAA.

Can Type 81 shoot down X-38MT?
No? - remove from game because:

Guys just stop replying to alviswisla, just look at his past activity, its pointless.

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If I died to any KH-38, it was once in the history of it being in War Thunder.
Which is about as many times to an AGM-65.

IR AGMs are easily defeated, not as easy as laser, but still easy enough.
SPAA’s goal is to frag aircraft, not their ordnance.
In-fact, missiles shouldn’t be able to destroy bombs with their explosive filler, which the last time this was tested Pantsir couldn’t destroy GBUs.

It’s true.
The guy from the red team will always be on the red side.
That’s why he doesn’t want to see the enemy’s Kh-38MT, he’s afraid.

Good!

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@白雪
NATO and China are “red team” and “red side” to you?

I don’t want Brimstones, AGM-65s, or KH-38s removed from War Thunder, I just want counters to them to exist and be commonplace.

All 10 tech trees need chaff-smoke for example if radar guided AGMs are added.

I’ll simply reiterate this.

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It’s hard.
Especially when they introduce some weird missile instead of Brimstone.

Just add the rocket that is in the title or don’t add it at all.

I repeat, this is not funny.

Just as I wanted to write a spicy comment 😐

It’s not hard to keep the place tidy, and it’s not hard to bring a personal dispute with someone to PM. I simply want this place to be clean, nothing much.

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It wasn’t me who wrote the provocative answer.
Rather, I was surprised how “balance” doesn’t work with the X-38MT, after which “my friend” decided to anger me.

I also wonder if the Object 640 “Black Eagle” will lose its ability to fire in the game.

After all, its shells will bring imbalance to the game.
Therefore, you can leave only machine guns that do not spoil the game. 😉

I did not include them because of my main opinion

afaik that’s been changed now, i mentioned it in another thread wrt PGMs being changed from AGMs to bombs and was told that bombs also get detonated by SAMs now.

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Apologies.

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I have to agree with what someone said earlier; why bother adding this if you’re just going to gimp it before it even gets to the game? Are the devs really that petty against Western vehicles? The Yak-141 gets added to the game with stuff it never had, the KVT gets added with the incorrect variant because god forbid the US has two premium M1A1s while Russia gets two. The 27ER isn’t allowed to have any competition as every request to get an Aim-7 just with a data link was ignored.

Just scrap the aircraft. We can try again later instead of gimping it and making it DOA before it even gets to the game.

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@Smin1080p_WT @Stona_WT

And where is it?

As we have answered you before, we do not have anti-radiation missiles or wepaonary in game.

So this plane will be like… 150% useless now?

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So maybe… you just add it?🤷‍♂️

Not at all?

No aircraft in game has anti-radiation weapons.

GR.4 brings dual mode (GPS + Laser) Paveway IVs which offer a lot more flexibility in battle, as well as EGBU-24 and Brimstone SAL.