Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

Only if they add Mode 3 where the missiles find their own targets. I dont think anyone here is supporting adding Mode 3 it would be OP as hell and as you said result in more teamkills than your average PE-8 bombing run.

Modes 1 & 2 require the target to be locked. So the only advantage is being able to continue tracking the target through smoke. I would argue this is inconsequential. And nerfing the weapon on the basis of the Radar seeker alone is nonsensical.

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This is the main reason why the Hellfire L is not here. Which is why my main problem is not that the Brimstone is using an inferior mode, it’s that Gaijin still have not added appropriate counters to prevent a weapon having severe powercreep. The Brimstone is yet another victim of this complacency.

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Yer about the Hellfire Ls. I think its about time they got added as well. The main argument against them was the Apache would have 16 FnF missiles. Well that ship has sailed now. And multiple nations have FnF missiles on Helis now. The cat is out of the bag.

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Actually… I dont think that is entirely true. If I understand how mode 3 works correctly. then it is pre-programmed with a list of targets to look for and doesnt just go for anything and everything within a killzone. Now obviously its not that simple in War Thunder due to mixed matchmaking, but I think it would be accurate enough to simply give them IFF ability.

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I wonder how it would deal with the abundance of T-72s and Leopards on both teams

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That is more of a War Thunder only issue and not necessarily one that would be faced IRL. Though that being said, Even in a certain eastern conflict. Brimstones are being fired in volleys over the battlefield without fear of friendly fire as far as I am aware.

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With Gaijin believing so deeply in things being perfectly modeled and there being absolutely no room to add anything in a placeholder state that this update will include total overhauls for the Sea Harriers to replace their placeholder parts, 100% accurately modeled BOL for all aircraft and a whole host of outstanding issues on the Tornados to be fixed both loadout options like Martels for the GR1 and the total lack of any radar for the Tornado IDS.

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Say it with me…

Air RB EC!

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I may be thinking of another missile but I swear brimstone has a pseudo IFF system

If it works like I think it does. Then it is programmed with targets and doesnt just go for anything

Britain isnt russia so they wont give us that range

Can brimstone be fnf on pilot specified target? Or is it always LOAL when fnf?

It depends on the specifics of Mode 2

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I read that has LOBL + FnF. / SAL but with mmV for Terminal guidance.

@Smin1080p_WT since countering this weapon type was a big concern, what the counter to the KH-38, the only counter to the missile is Russian pansir but they fight on the same team. Can you give a better insight how the devs came to that conclusion for the KH-38?

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They shouldn’t be add in the game if is to butchered them this much

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so what’s the counter to the KH38? out of curiosity, can you name 1?

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Smin dont worry about Brimstone, you can add it to ground version of the game. Here is the perfect counter, I am sure you can make it work.
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Smoke? Terrain masking with a building where possible? Driving next to a vehicle wreck normally also shifts the tracking of IIR weapons to the wreck?

Honestly the only useful solution. For everything else either the IOG will get you or the large explosive mass.

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Perhaps adding a counter electronic warfare kit to ground vehicles which makes it locking on to them much harder could be added as an extra upgrade. In this way survivability can be increased by a good margin.