Glad you agree with me about Brimstones.
Not sure why your post is seemingly claiming that my “there is a clear issue with Brimstones” take is “to muddy the waters” tho.
So you agree. Brimstones should have been given either a placeholder FnF seeker or a limited mmV seeker and that being restricted to laser only is unfair.
Glad we are in agreement
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For the time being we have decided not to introduce Grom-1. Su-34 will retain only the Grom-2 glide bomb for the time being. Naturally all weaponry as we mention is subject to change.
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What conclusion have you guy reach in regards to the brimstone having some sort of FnF ability out side of the irl version. In all honesty even if you limit the range having a AGM 65 counter part doesn’t sound to op compared to KH 38.
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The point I was making was not the time to reach the target but rather as you see in the video the ability to land again play another game until by your 4 th game your missiles in the first game destroy the base. You should be able to realise the farming this could achieve
Hey. As was explained in the blog, we do not currently plan a F&F mode for Brimstone. Its being introduced with its SAL mode.
We don’t plan a fictional version of its F&F modes when there is a historical mode the dual mode Brimstone has that can fit into the game (SAL).
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The guy who made the video failed to realize you get crew locked if you leave an ARB match early, so this statement is not true at all.
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Only implementing one mode of a “dual mode Brimstone” makes it a fictional version of the missile.
The only thing that makes the FnF mode OP is LOAL, so all you have to do is just “not introduce” the LOAL mode.
The reasoning provided is just an excuse to make Britain as useless as possible as per usual.
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why would you delete them? can you expand on reasoning behind such decision?
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I just don’t get it, you guys are arguing so much to introduce a FnF mode for the brimstone, but didn’t give in hesitation to add the KH 38. I know Smin it not ur call but this whole thing feels one sided completely and favors bias. On paper the brimstone is a hell fire that is jet based platform, but the KH 38 is a Mach 2 capable missile ir based with 152g of he and a grantee lunch range of 15km. And better yes the su 34 gets 6 of them now. Like what is going on here.
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I think its implied you land first since you werent that far from the airfield which doesnt give you a crew lock, either way doesnt matter now as the Grom 1 isnt being added
You posted this image further up the thread when stating the Devs werent going to add a ficitonal version of the missile. And stating that only Mode 1 will be added. And thats fair enough.
I’m pretty sure everyone agrees that Mode 3 would be overpowered as hell. But many here seem to disagree with the assertion that Mode 2 would be significantly stronger then weapons already in the game. Mode 2 Brimstones only advantage over Kh-38Ts and AGM-65Ds is that it can see through smoke. That’s it.
So why is this seeing through smoke the line where something is OP? Being able to see through smoke is pretty niche and will only affect a small number of launches. Most times a Kh-38 or AGM-65 are fired at a target, the target is completely unaware they are under attack. So there is no smoke to fool the missile.
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dont forget that the KH38 due to its IOG and warhead will still kill targets that are sitting in smoke and if they leave the smoke it has a decent chance to require them
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“Only” advantage.
Trees as well, trees are less resistant to radar than they are to IR.
Even lasers have a better time around trees than IR.
War Thunder needs new SPAA capable of pressuring Mav and KH-38 carriers.
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If 9 minutes have not elasped before leaving the match, regardless if you are fully repaired and undamaged, you will get a crew lock. Hunter had mistaken where in GRB you can do that and not get penalized, but ARB will crew lock you.
TLDR - Just stick to the Harrier GR7
Or even better advice just dont play britain. That seems to be the energy thats being given off
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lmao
You’re really reaching here. I said smoke will only affect a small percentage of launches and you go and find an example that affects even fewer.
Of the four things said in the Dev blog that will make Brimstones to OP.
- ‘The primary reason is that this seeker utilizes the “lock-on after launch (LOAL)” mode’
- ‘they require no challenge to use effectively and have no counterplay options for those being attacked’
- ‘The attacker can operate outside of the range of any anti-air system in the game’
- ‘Brimstone is also immune to smoke’
1 is fixed by not implementing Firing Mode 3. 2 & 3 apply to weapon systems already available so should be discounted (Or remove those weapons from the game too). And 4 is the weakest. While 2 & 3 apply to every use 4 only applies to a small fraction. And on balance id argue is irrelevant.
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Max range isn’t as big of a deal, since iirc all fnf seekers are like 10km capable, and above that tanks barely render in. It’s the amount of missiles you can sling in a very short amount of time. I’m still uncertain if the su34 will be better than the su25sm3. You get 2 more missiles that you might not be able to utilise. This is why the f-16c is this powerful, if it top downs the battlefield zone it can see every enemy with the targeting pod it has, and the mavericks will have almost a 100% kill rate due to the launch angle. So in the end, 6 enemies instantly nuked. It would be the same with the tornado but without the superior multirole capability of the F-16c
So to make it clear in case people cant understand the outrage. This is the section of the reasoning that Gaijin shouldve left off.
Everything else provided makes great sense i will not even refute it. THIS CHUNK HERE however, is nothing but pure irony.
This one statement will haunt future CAS additions like a ghost, because its hilarious how it is used as a reason against adding a weapon as it was designed, when theres multiple weapons in game already that already do everything that posts claims to want to avoid.
If i were writing this blog? I wouldnt have even mentioned that part, i wouldve told the higher ups “yeah if i put this in here, people are gonna lose it”
Ill make this more fun lets see all the systems that do this.
10.0-10.7 - Laser Guided Bombs and TV guided bombs out range early Stinger SPAA at that BR, most vehicles lack LWS.
10.7-11.7 - Maverick Bs, PGMs, KH29s out range most SACLOS AA at those ranges
12.0-12.7 - KH38L, KH38MT, KH29TD, AGM65G, AGM65Ds all out range all top tier SPAA (except the pantsir)
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