The double standard when talking about the Brimstone's capabilities

I thought JSOW-C used terminal IIR guidance?

Yes,the JSOW-C use aN IR DSMAC-like seeker in terminal phase,it can’t track tank targets.

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The real problem of maverick now is its flight performance.the drag of missile is too high.For AGM65G even at maximum range, the missile still has a speed of 200 meters per second to ensure penetration,but gaijin think the speed be 0 at max range.There are very detailed information about launch envelope,TOF,terminal velocity/dive angle in harrier tactical manuals,but I can’t write issue about it because the manual is a leaked one.

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Radar is clearly picking the ordnance, IMO your problem is with your radar screen settings (range 30 scanning only 60deg).

Doesn’t matter, the bombs were launched lower altitude, you can see them pop up in the 2nd image when the tracking radar locks the F-15.

But yeah, it’s clear RCS is being updated constantly as well, and at some point Pantsir’s ability to lock ordnance will be as difficult as everyone else.

For those that haven’t seen it

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Nothing of value was lost since the grom is a meme, but it’s hilarious that so many people fell for another “mig-25 SUPER FIGHTER!!!1!” situation here.

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probably gonna get it with USA, but i’m saying germany needs something, and it needs it quick. I’m not saying other nations shouldn’t get it

Dont really even need it now. ICE is OP at 13.0. Especially as no one else is moving down

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lmao, this is the funniest shit. It’s 13.3, with a airframe that’s slow enough to hinder the range of the aim120. Every match is 13.7, you’re fighting gripens, f15’s, f16’s, su27’s and you never get to fight anything below 13.3. the worst aircraft i can fight in it is a harrier, and i’d go as far as to say its the second worst plane in toptier. Can you name another nation that needs it more than germany right now?

Its 13.0 now, as per the next major update anyway. Which means the ICE is apparently equal to the Sea harrier FA2 despite totally and completely outclassing it. 13.0 Sim is now dead for Bluefor because no one is going to be able to fight the ICE.

ICE is a much stronger BVR truck than the SAAF Gripen which suck with R-Darters. ICE is probably stronger than the Su-27SM with R-77s. In Sim ICE is now meta for its bracket

But F3 Late left at 13.3 because reasons. Left DOA to fight Su-34s and F-15Cs and we spent an entire year begging for Gaijin to lower the BR of the F3 when it was DOA fighting Mig-29s and we were ignored.

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F4f is stronger than su27? what? you realize both the gripen and the su27 can choose either to BVR or get closer, because they have HMD and all that junk. Meanwhile, the f4f has to keep enemies at an arms length, it doesen’t have HMD and its only option is to BVR since its hard to go low. And i disagree that it’s a stronger BVR truck, since as i said about 5 times now, the airframe is too shit to BVR. the only plane it’s better than as you said is the harrier. My point is that germany should get the f18 ASAP, or some equivalent to it. Because although you keep complaining about it, the gripen is actually much better than the ICE, so britain really doesen’t need a fighter that desperately. Or at least as much as germany

F3 Late should be dropped down to 13.0 to match the ICE is the point.

Its BS that Germany gets this TLC when Britain didnt for an entire year. FA2 probably needs a BR drop down to 12.7 as well.

The Fact the ICE can now face FGR2s to me is just insane. They refuse to even consider 11.7 BR for the ICE but the AMRAAM slinging supersonic jet gets to drop down.

What I want, is for some fairness. Not this obvious German favourtism. What Id give for top tier ground or naval even half as good as Germany at the moemnt. and for aircraft like the F3 or FA2 (and FA2 doesnt even have its correct RWR yet) to get the same treatment. Just because we have the Gripen, doesnt mean all our other aircraft can be DOA and “Its fine because you can just paly the gripen instead”

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So after watching Hunter with it, 1) lol at it just cutting out and exploding before it “should” if you fire beyond 18km, but at least we got 18km range with it I guess? So long as targets light up for you ha.

What exactly is your point? For germany to not get it because you got unfair treatment a while ago? I’m saying that i don’t care which nations get it as long as germany gets it, since at the moment there isn’t any plane worth playing in toptier.

Huh, it’s not very menouverable either is it. Meanwhile the Grom-1 being more agile than both the brimstone and the tornado it was launched from. But its GPS guided so its somewhat balanced

My point is this.

If ICE is at 13.0, then F3 late should be at 13.0 and FA2 should be considered for 12.7.

Germany got massive buffs for its “top tier but not top tier” aircraft after just 3 months, Britain and Sweden got nothing for an entire year. Imagine if the ICE was it, was all you got between when it was added and September next year, but it didnt have meta ARH, it had the weakest avaialbe ARH.

Britain got accused of being selfish asking for something new, but Germany isnt when asking for F-16 and F-18. Germany needed nothing this update, but I hope all 3 get Typhoon next update.

Heck, even look at this update. ICE gets a massive buff, Britains new naval addition sucks, and Britains new aircraft sucks, Britains ground still sucks.

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Thats an INSANE take.

BLUFOR already has the AV-8B+, the F-14B, the F-14A IRIAF, and the F-15A in this BR range, along with some F-16’s now iirc?

BLUFOR had near uncontested dominance in this BR bracket with almost all ARH jets along with most of the IRCCM jets. Throw in the M2K’s which often end up BLUFOR and it was rough.

It has no HUD, no TGP, no HMD, and an 11.0 airframe. It is nowhere near as good as you’re making it out to be.

Its like giving a blind guy a knife then saying hes the single greatest MMA champion of all time… can he do damage? Yeah, its a knife, itll hurt if he sticks someone with it, but hes gonna get rocked 9/10 times without sticking someone with it…

Calling it a “massive buff” is a bad joke, it should never have been 13.3 in the first place, the BR placement was insane, and getting mad at german players over it isnt gonna help drop the Tornado, which is OBJECTIVELY a better aircraft, just not by much.

FA2 and AV-8B+ have major limitations that mtiigate their AMRAAMs (and thats without even considering the nerfs/placeholder parts applied to the FA2). ICE has none.

Aim-54s are stupidly easy to deal with to point where I wanna say they arent used much in Sim. At least the last tiem I saw an F-14 he was running Aim-7 instead.

Mig-29G, F-15J, F-16AJ, F16MLU, J-8F, AV-8B+ (italy) are all very strong aircraft. That match, quite often like for like what Bluefor had. Now through the ICE into the mix and its going to change a lot, especially as the ICE will be played far more than most others. I can easily see that bracket becoming 1:2 ratio of players in favour for Redfor.

But the most annoying thing is the F3 Late, which is DOA vs anything at top bracket, isnt moving down, its not even being considered. Its the closest match to the ICE you can get, but they arent being considered equal. Probably because the Gripen exists and such, Gaijin doesnt care about any of the other Rank 8 aircraft

FA2 has no HUD (currently), No TGP, no HMD, and a 9.7 airframe. Also with no IR Missiles or guns (without removing AMRAAM) and is sub-sonic not supersonic. These are apparently now 100% equal aircraft.

I likely now wont even be trying to fly the GR4 in the 13.0 brackets because its going to stand no chance defending against the ICE. FA2 is going to suck because you will be constantly on the defensive. F3 late is still unplayable at 13.3.

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F-15J is superior to the F-15A due to AAM-3
Av-8B+ is equal to the AV-8B+
F-16 is equal to the F-16.
Mig-29G easily beats the F-14A, B and IRIAF if it isnt stupid, in fact the F-14s are probably the weakest aircraft at that BR.
J-8F and ICE are the strongest 2 ARH slingers now at 13.0, as both are super-sonic vs sub-sonics on Bluefor.

Redfor definetly hold the advantage in most respects now at 13.0. Especially brackets where they are paired with France and Sweden

So if you arent going to add anything constructive to say, Dont say anything at all.

The fact is, ICE should not be dropping down. Isntead 13.7s should move to 14.0. If they are dropping the ICE down, then F3 Late should be dropped down to 13.0 as well.

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