Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

You are telling me this isn’t groundbreaking?

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F-15 beats the Grom to a base on Sinai by 43 seconds.
Grom does not do anything to bases that dumb bombs don’t already do.

It’s a GPS guided munition.

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I refuse to believe your being genuine with statements such as that, intentional disruption to an actual conversation just to muddy the waters isnt needed here at all, there is a clear issue with brimstones being laser guided only, end of story.

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Glad you agree with me about Brimstones.
Not sure why your post is seemingly claiming that my “there is a clear issue with Brimstones” take is “to muddy the waters” tho.

So you agree. Brimstones should have been given either a placeholder FnF seeker or a limited mmV seeker and that being restricted to laser only is unfair.

Glad we are in agreement

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For the time being we have decided not to introduce Grom-1. Su-34 will retain only the Grom-2 glide bomb for the time being. Naturally all weaponry as we mention is subject to change.

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What conclusion have you guy reach in regards to the brimstone having some sort of FnF ability out side of the irl version. In all honesty even if you limit the range having a AGM 65 counter part doesn’t sound to op compared to KH 38.

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The point I was making was not the time to reach the target but rather as you see in the video the ability to land again play another game until by your 4 th game your missiles in the first game destroy the base. You should be able to realise the farming this could achieve

Hey. As was explained in the blog, we do not currently plan a F&F mode for Brimstone. Its being introduced with its SAL mode.

We don’t plan a fictional version of its F&F modes when there is a historical mode the dual mode Brimstone has that can fit into the game (SAL).

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The guy who made the video failed to realize you get crew locked if you leave an ARB match early, so this statement is not true at all.

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Only implementing one mode of a “dual mode Brimstone” makes it a fictional version of the missile.

The only thing that makes the FnF mode OP is LOAL, so all you have to do is just “not introduce” the LOAL mode.

The reasoning provided is just an excuse to make Britain as useless as possible as per usual.

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why would you delete them? can you expand on reasoning behind such decision?

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I just don’t get it, you guys are arguing so much to introduce a FnF mode for the brimstone, but didn’t give in hesitation to add the KH 38. I know Smin it not ur call but this whole thing feels one sided completely and favors bias. On paper the brimstone is a hell fire that is jet based platform, but the KH 38 is a Mach 2 capable missile ir based with 152g of he and a grantee lunch range of 15km. And better yes the su 34 gets 6 of them now. Like what is going on here.

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I think its implied you land first since you werent that far from the airfield which doesnt give you a crew lock, either way doesnt matter now as the Grom 1 isnt being added

You posted this image further up the thread when stating the Devs werent going to add a ficitonal version of the missile. And stating that only Mode 1 will be added. And thats fair enough.

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I’m pretty sure everyone agrees that Mode 3 would be overpowered as hell. But many here seem to disagree with the assertion that Mode 2 would be significantly stronger then weapons already in the game. Mode 2 Brimstones only advantage over Kh-38Ts and AGM-65Ds is that it can see through smoke. That’s it.

So why is this seeing through smoke the line where something is OP? Being able to see through smoke is pretty niche and will only affect a small number of launches. Most times a Kh-38 or AGM-65 are fired at a target, the target is completely unaware they are under attack. So there is no smoke to fool the missile.

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dont forget that the KH38 due to its IOG and warhead will still kill targets that are sitting in smoke and if they leave the smoke it has a decent chance to require them

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“Only” advantage.
Trees as well, trees are less resistant to radar than they are to IR.
Even lasers have a better time around trees than IR.

War Thunder needs new SPAA capable of pressuring Mav and KH-38 carriers.

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If 9 minutes have not elasped before leaving the match, regardless if you are fully repaired and undamaged, you will get a crew lock. Hunter had mistaken where in GRB you can do that and not get penalized, but ARB will crew lock you.

TLDR - Just stick to the Harrier GR7

Or even better advice just dont play britain. That seems to be the energy thats being given off

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lmao