Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

That’s an issue of Tornadoes being over BR’d in general, not the Su-34 being under BR’d

We can only use the metrics we have.
Su-34 with its ground ordinance alone should be top tier with the F-15E

Mirage could also join that level
With Tornado below them

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Have seen some drv server footage it pulls crazy AOA while also being pretty quick.

Yes and the Tornados should be lower

It is. In ground RB.

The Mirage is already 13.7

I have played it. It pulls crazy AOA… in exchange for all of it’s speed. And it is anything but quick.

I havent flown it likely will never unlock it.
AOA for the R73 should be spicy though

I mean not really, like I said you dump all your speed. It has no HMD so the super maneuverable missiles aren’t very useful.

You get insane dogfighting missiles on a plane that can’t keep it’s speed after half a circle.

The ACM rectangle is pretty tall though so I suppose that is a decent consolation price.

Thats realistic though its the last chance button.
Trade all your energy for that one chance.

I might have missed something, but is it getting Paveway IV’s as like a consolation prize?

I think it’s HMS not HMD so probably not

But we are missing an A2A SRC radar which might have IFF

Probably.

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To sum up, only Russian toys enter the game practically unchanged, and even the better (see) Wichr took some years to “balance”. The KH38MT is overpowering and practically unbearable, but it won’t be changed because it’s Russian… That’s it. You can complain as much as you want, but the developers don’t care about it…

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I’m surprised they even decided not to add the Grom-1s (people had somehow forgotten Gaijin’s statement on balancing bombers via economy, something I still think is the dumbest, most stupid idea there is, but anyway.) but they decided not to, presumably because it’s a bit unfair to nuke the enemy base from the other side of the map and basically be invulnerable (you’re under the cover of Airfield SPAA)

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And Germans get the MW1

They have BKW-39 dispenser as well.

What a joke

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After some tests …Brimstone …not gonna waste time for that tornado … pantsir will it alive … 13 km max range with good conditions …

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Honestly the best thing about the GR.4 is the fact you can use 4 X PGM500 while still being able to use the nose mounted FLIR to lock and fire them.

Still not great, but better than nothing I guess. PGMs really feel like they should be better than they are ingame, the booster feels like its just one of those handheld fans strapped to the back of the bomb

I feel they should pull Brimstone and give the Tornado ALARM.

At least then Britain would have a stand off weapon for dealing with SAMs. Of course Britain cant have anything first.

Lets be honest whats the Kh-38 going to be used to snipe…SAMs

be a bit more realistic

You have to buff the brimstone. Cant be waiting a minute and a half maintaining lock. SPAA will get u, the tank will either die or move behind a building. The missile is to slow, at range its a 1m 30sec guidance time. 1m 30 maintaining a lock on a tank that will get killed or go behind a building or spaa shoot u down since they are faster/longer range missiles

Brimstone is not worth it