Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

Idk if it’s considered off topic but are 114Ls completely ruled out too? I’m pretty sure they’re the predecessor to the Brimstone so I’d assume, even though they’re mmW, they would struggle more than Brimstones especially with how poorly they travel to a target.

On a positive note, I will call the GR4 a good plane, IF and only if they give it the IR PGMs (which have been approved 5 months ago)

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you do know Terrain avoidance helps against uneven terrain but wont help this missile avoid an entire building… if LOAL isn’t modeled. If the target is behind a building and this missile has no LOAL… it is effectively a dead missile.

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I also think it needs either BOL or dropping down to 12.0. Especially in Sim, a 12.7 BR is just not gunna be fun

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You’re welcome to read for yourself (sorry for the notification gunjob)

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I have read it myself… I know how it works. But without LOAL, this would require manual player input to redirect it to a new target-

This missile isn’t gonna fly over the building then pull 30Gs to slam into the roof of the tank hiding behind it.

If you’d already read it then why make an argument that was already responded to? And Brimstone does have quite a significant loft, I’m not sure it would need to pull 30Gs if it had caught sight of the target over the building, but I’ll have to check the angles later tonight

why would I respond to an invalid counter argument? if you can’t understand why I’d rather not take the time to explain why. have a nice day.

The “TFR” on the Brimstone should allow it to handle being fired at low alt without slamming into a hill or a tree. But even mmV cant see through a building. So even with LOAL, if the target is located within one of the many CQB/Urban maps we have, its not going to make much of difference, its why Mode 2 exists. If the buildings arent too tall though, it will be able to see down though, its whether it can turn quickly enough to come down near vertical on a target

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In addition it also has the anti brimstone jamming device on top of the housing unit. We can call it upgrade mangalstone.

Then respond to his elaboration? I asked why you said the same thing someone else had already said, if you’d read the more detailed response to it. If you’re deliberately not responding to points you don’t think are valid then why respond to the initial ones you disagreed with in the first place?

Isn’t that why it lofts?

This also won’t allow it to see through buildings either, if the seeker can’t see the tank through the building then why would it be able to see the laser?

No, but with the mode 3 firing it “off map” it wouldnt handle the maps with the skyscrapers, but using mode 2 you could fire it between buildings manually or straight down.

Can’t wait to intercept one Brimstone and get finished off by a Maverick or Kh-38MT, I guess I should’ve smoked and moved lol.

GBAD? also does russia use Chaff in their smoke grenades?

120B and 120A are the exact same ingame

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if pantsir-s1 not exist in wt now it fine. but when pantsir-s1 exist things different.

Ground based air defence

oh fair, I feel like all they need to do it make it so you earn SL and RP for shooting down bombs and AGMs

and are 9Ms and 9L/I the same?

If not, point still stands.