Having just used it myself it’s really bad, not because the missile is bad in itself but because it has NONE of the flexibility every other SAM has, absolutly none
Can’t fend for yourself against anything within a 3 ish km envelope (maybe more 5 didn’t test enough), much less against ground targets at any rangen whilst having most maps being cqc hellholes and any lazer CAS easily outranging you…
In all honestly the 2S6 for exemple has barelly worse range on it’s missile but really does everything else better bar the radar, that this thing is so high cannot currently be justified
I… disagree?
I’ve had multiple instances in which i launched at 2 km and it killed. The missile also works fine, it is agile enough imo. They also recently fixed the bug that would automatically switch your lock to random flares/chaffs. Also a thing that a lot of people pointed out… you can shoot down incoming missiles, I’ve had numerous duels with helis firing at each other like this.
One thing that i advice to do is to spawn and immediately hit Y+1+8 since this extends your radar range to 30km. At first i didn’t even know this was possible but this gives you quite a lot more situational awareness and helps you maximizing your missiles range (the radar is automatically set to 10km, the missiles can hit at 12km)
I’m confused… are you supposed to fight ground targets? Anyway there’s a way for the Tor to do so…
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No idea when you did that but it litterally does not work
Just fired one at an adats 600 meters away, the missile splashed way to the side way behind, litterally out of my screen
1st August 2024
600 meters is pretty close btw, the missile has quite a “curve” and it has the tendency of hitting the ground bc of it so you might need to aim higher.
It’s as far as a lot of maps will allow you to be…
Once again… you’re not supposed to battle ground stuff with the Tor.
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And you are missing the entire point, it’s missile is barelly better than 2S6 if at all, and is way less capable, only the radar is straight better
It being 11.7 in this state cannot be justified
I wouldn’t compare it to anything Russian since Russia has the Pantsir that outclasses everything else.
Compared to the other countries it does perform in line. It is not trash.
I compared to the 10.7 2S6, not the pantsir
It has 2 km more range compared to the 2S6. Technically it can pull 42 compared to the 32 Gs of the 2S6.
It is slightly slower but has more guidance time and a bigger warhead.
This does not justify a whole 1.0 br jump, especially when it gets no weapon for closer range like the 2S6 guns
Tor should be at most 11.3 and ideally 11.0 in it’s current state
Hell a 10.7 (in grb) aircraft can easily ourtrange it with lazer guided bombs, say super etendard or even better the 10.3 Q5L
Buddy you do realize that putting the Tor at those BRs does NOTHING right?
it does a lot as far as matchmaking go, such as becoming unable to see stuff like the F16C in GRB at all (it’s 12.7 in GRB)
And even if there is no lineup for it, 11.7 makes no sense
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Even if they were to put the Tor at 11.0 (wrong) i wouldn’t bump up my 10.7 line-up for it.
It makes no difference. Why do you care for it to be lower in BR if you won’t be using it in a 11.3/11.0 BR that doesn’t exist in the Chinese ground tech tree?
BRs are supposed to reflect the current capabilities of a vehicules and is a metric one can use to expect how well it can handle itself, the capacbilities it get are not 11.7 worthy when i compare it to a 10.7 2S6, then again the 2S6 might also be hilariously undertiered
How is the Tor worse than the ADATS? Both are at 11.7. The ITO is better and i agree with that, the Flarakrad is arguably worse since it has to reload after 2 missiles (the missiles are better ofc). The Pantsir doesn’t have competition. The OTOMATIC is the OTOMATIC.
The adats can engage ground targets easily and is way more adept at defending itself against closer range’d CAS
it’s missiles are barelly less capable too
Anti-air is not supposed to fight ground vehicles. And i’ve had enough games with it to believe and say that you can fight air targets at 2 km.
But it affects it’s perfomances and thus the BR it can be given, if the ZSU57 was to be rated exclusivelly for it’s anti air capabilities it wouldn’t be so high, same story with italian SPAA car for exemple that had it’s br shoot way up
Either way, Tor should not be 11.7, and or else 2S6 should move to 11.3 and panstir to 12.0+