This does not create any political element, Chinese players are creating it. This isn’t a good reason for their behavior nor for not adding this tank to Thai subtree.
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Sino-japanese relation is a long story. And there’s more than just those two parties involved. There is one big player always behind the scene.
Why do u claim that it does not create any political element when the chinese players are explaining it everywhere?
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And again, I can bring more until understand.
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Yes, which is exactly why China isn’t added as a Japanese subtree, and Japan isn’t added as a Chinese subtree.
I’d even say that right now, with subtrees the way they are, I see the issue. Even a Thai VT-4, when placed in the Japanese research tree, can have implications that are problematic.
That’s why I personally want subtrees to get research trees under their own flag and nation, to act as cooperating nations that can share lineups, rather than one nation being placed “under” another.
But that doesn’t mean we should block the Thai VT-4, instead we need to demand the change that allows it to be added without controversy.
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Come on Chinese people that still think the tank is still yours join and ask us instead of “Claiming” I don’t see anyone do this since I wrote. Are you afraid of Thai players? Or only have power here?
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I share a similar view with you: treating the Southeast Asian countries as a Pan-Asian route to avoid conflicts and tensions in international relations.
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hear hear
Because it is not a political statement. They are perceiving this as one.
Japan is getting Thai subtree and Thailand has VT-4. It is simple, there is no real problem here.
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I already made a suggestion for this subtree rework. The idea is to keep all subtree functionality, but offer more individual national identity and space for vehicle additions to each nation.
Additionally this allows for more player choicefor how and what they want to play in game.
If anyone has more ideas for improvement those are always appreciated, just write them under the suggestion.
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clearly there is a problem with VT4 otherwise we wouldn’t being having this discussion.
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I’m sorry but I think part of community are angry about planned adding of a tank because of political reasons.
Well…Im Another Thai Player here IMO
i want thai tech tree join as my own nation or Full SEA nation in warthunder but since it has to be JP subtree so in really im still ok with being JP subtree. VT-4 that thai use is the varient version for trade to other country and china dont use this varient to garrison that Basiclly that thai varient have rights to join JP sup tree Also OplotM also can add to japan too because it Ukrine modification varient and most of them were use by thai Calvary as main garrison MBT so it still have rights to join JP tho and also i think Ukrine player cloud agree that OplotM join JP than Ussr.
And for lone last thing i understand Chinese player who want thailand tree to add to china because thailand and china were friendly nation for long times but IMO our friendship since WW2 were Politic and trade is the most but Thailand and japan was military alliance please understand my point,I mean im also OK if gaijin add thailand to China subtree at first but also ok if they add to japan too
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There are tanks of one nation in nation that were enemies and almost no one had problem with this.
then this is the first time, if what u’r referring to is true. I’m not aware of the history of this forum. Doesn’t mean the discussion here and elsewhere about VT4 is not important to people.
I understand this but reason is stupid.
I do not have anything against Chinese players but this is unfair to Thai players and anyone who wants to play Thai tanks.
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I’ve heard that before over the past few days. And, I don’t find it “stupid”, if u choose to put it that way.
The point is to not add VT4 to the japanese tree, not that to not add the Thai VT4 at all. That’s why gaijin responded with this letter: 战争雷霆团队致中国社区的一席话 to the discussion about “No Chinese vehicles added to the Japanese tech tree”: 请不要在后续更新中向日系科技树添加中系载具
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But where to add this tank when Thai subbtre is being added to Japanese tree?
One solution is to push gaijin to have an independent tech tree for ASEAN nations, which is also discussed in this channel (see earlier posts). U can also visit 关于整合泛亚科技树 for more discussion.
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