Gaijin: we wont add top down missiles to helicopters
Roll on 2025: Haha LMUR go weeee
Yea what’s wrong. Helicopters are useless without DIRCM and FnF missiles
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Sounds like skill issue. and what does that have to do with the topic
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Look at what that comments replying to then you can get context
is reading difficult? or as you say “skill issue”
Another example of gaijin breaking their promises to the community captain oblivious
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The game changes. Things like these must change too. And I think that the FnF missiles aren’t a bad thing at all
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I dont mind FnF’s (im still waiting for AGM-114L’s for all AH-64D’s)
I just hate when promises are made and are never kept, It just makes people more untrust worthy
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The game evolves. You cant just keep every promise.
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Most they made is elementary level promises, yes game evolves. But it just takes 1 additional sentence
“We won’t add it for now, but in future might”
It’s not that serious Gaijin has broke multiple promises in the past
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I wouldnt say never, but I also didnt change my review when they actually did a better job in the last years, since the game still felt not that great…
and not giving them money when you dont support their actions is also a way to say you dont agree with them… since money = support of the current stuff/ planned stuff
Funny, isn’t it?
Ok you take it out of context
I do like this example, bit I don’t think Ukranian vehicles are a good comparison. The main people complaining here would be actual Ukranians, and the manufacturers wouldn’t matter at all.
So I think I’ll rewrite it a bit (replaced text in bold):
For example, Gaijin plans to add American F-16V to Pakistan in the Chinese tech tree. After this got leaked, western players starts to protest. Moreover, Gaijin has also made western NATO tanks like the Abrams almost impossible to play, and has nerfed western CAS to the point that they’re unable to pen any Chinese MBT. Do you not think that this is cause for backlash?
Changes explained
- Hypotherical vehicles switched to being American F-16V added to China as Pakistani options. This is to create a Thai VT-4 like scenario where Pakistan has good relations to China, USA sold Pakistan the vehicles, but USA did not directly sell them to China.
→ I wanted ro use ROC M1A2T but since that’s Republic of China I figured I’d take Pakistan instead to take a subtree. I know ROC has F-16V too, but those also weren’t sold to PRC making it similar just technically not a “subtree” in the classic sense.- Changed unkillable MBTs to China to fit the same example
Now with this in mind, I’d say there is absolutely reason for backlash, but the F-16V is not something to complain about. The issues are in this case with Gaijin mishandling the western vehicles. One nations suffering is however not a reason to try and sabotage another. This is very common already with “X nation bias” topics here, and in many cases is just spite rather than reason.
The same was the case with the Chinese backlash, which was fully justified in wanting to fix Chinese tech and treating China as a nation better, but not in denying Thailand their tank. I’d even go so far and say the delay was still justified for the poor timing, just not the demand to cancel it completely.
Ukraine and (because I know this would be brought up otherwise) Singapore are/were different. The issue wasn’t third parties complaining, it’s that Ukranian and Singaporean players were largely against this placement. If a majority of their respective playerbases were to ask to be placed with the USSR / China techtrees then I would support these as well and call third party complaints from western nations absurd too.
Just because Ukraine bought a Leopard from Germany doesn’t give Germans a right to decide what happens with the Ukranian nation. The payment for the Leopard was the money they paid, now it’s theirs and no longer under German control.
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Out of context?
Duality of man…
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I think the delay to another update wasnt a big deal at all. since the vt4 wasnt rlly needed gameplay wise since the techtree isnt lacking mbt´s.
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Yep, exactly what I’m thinking as well. I just don’t like the idea that Thailand can’t get their main MBT because of where they are placed, but if it’s just a delay then that’s perfectly fine.
Maybe instead of a poorly timed V-J day release they can time it around the Thai Army day in January (closest would be December update, sadly none fits perfectly). This is also most likely when M1A2T is added as well, so even the Chinese could get something alongside it.
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yup, most ppl do understand such reasonings, and most of their ideas for china are now getting fire since some of them overreacted to the vt4 to thailand. tbf the t84 to pakistan is also seen critical sine they only ever tested the vehicle(to my knowledge).
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The Oplot P was a unique variant developed for Pakistan, it just lost to the VT-4. My main issue with it is that the tank in game is not the Oplot P, but the Oplot T copied over. I hope they fix it.
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Oplot-P was modified according to pakistan requirements.
Absolutely NONE western equipment or vehicles to China until Thai VT-4 is added*
Due to yet another bug it is slower than Type 90 when IRL it is faster.
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