Also the protection of Oplot is quite similar to the ZTZ99A, so you can see how bad the Chinese tank is. Btw ZTZ99A has a longer reload too so ZTZ99A is definitely worse than Oplot
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Then you try make the tank move by itself without engine then because you know what that is the state of Royal Thai Army top MBT in game right now because it’s still missing another part which is vt-4.
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China is missing Abrams. What’s your point
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I did but that Gaijin’s incompetent in general happen to any nation except Russia that seem to be out to live server in perfect state LMUR vs other new FnF for examples
But at least because Chinese fight back now they’ll get BA-11 next update as the result which show that Gaijin need something to force their hand i suggest they keep doing that because once they stop gaijin always comes back to f anyone.
“Trailed = gets it”
say let’s look at what Japan trailed and still never got… F-14A GR-135, all the aircraft on the F-X programme aka Jaguar’s, Mirage F-1’s, JA-37, F-111’s and the list goes on (thats only for planes too)
Gaijin: we wont add top down missiles to helicopters
Roll on 2025: Haha LMUR go weeee
Yea what’s wrong. Helicopters are useless without DIRCM and FnF missiles
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Sounds like skill issue. and what does that have to do with the topic
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Look at what that comments replying to then you can get context
is reading difficult? or as you say “skill issue”
Another example of gaijin breaking their promises to the community captain oblivious
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The game changes. Things like these must change too. And I think that the FnF missiles aren’t a bad thing at all
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I dont mind FnF’s (im still waiting for AGM-114L’s for all AH-64D’s)
I just hate when promises are made and are never kept, It just makes people more untrust worthy
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The game evolves. You cant just keep every promise.
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Most they made is elementary level promises, yes game evolves. But it just takes 1 additional sentence
“We won’t add it for now, but in future might”
It’s not that serious Gaijin has broke multiple promises in the past
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I wouldnt say never, but I also didnt change my review when they actually did a better job in the last years, since the game still felt not that great…
and not giving them money when you dont support their actions is also a way to say you dont agree with them… since money = support of the current stuff/ planned stuff
Funny, isn’t it?
Ok you take it out of context
I do like this example, bit I don’t think Ukranian vehicles are a good comparison. The main people complaining here would be actual Ukranians, and the manufacturers wouldn’t matter at all.
So I think I’ll rewrite it a bit (replaced text in bold):
For example, Gaijin plans to add American F-16V to Pakistan in the Chinese tech tree. After this got leaked, western players starts to protest. Moreover, Gaijin has also made western NATO tanks like the Abrams almost impossible to play, and has nerfed western CAS to the point that they’re unable to pen any Chinese MBT. Do you not think that this is cause for backlash?
Changes explained
- Hypotherical vehicles switched to being American F-16V added to China as Pakistani options. This is to create a Thai VT-4 like scenario where Pakistan has good relations to China, USA sold Pakistan the vehicles, but USA did not directly sell them to China.
→ I wanted ro use ROC M1A2T but since that’s Republic of China I figured I’d take Pakistan instead to take a subtree. I know ROC has F-16V too, but those also weren’t sold to PRC making it similar just technically not a “subtree” in the classic sense.- Changed unkillable MBTs to China to fit the same example
Now with this in mind, I’d say there is absolutely reason for backlash, but the F-16V is not something to complain about. The issues are in this case with Gaijin mishandling the western vehicles. One nations suffering is however not a reason to try and sabotage another. This is very common already with “X nation bias” topics here, and in many cases is just spite rather than reason.
The same was the case with the Chinese backlash, which was fully justified in wanting to fix Chinese tech and treating China as a nation better, but not in denying Thailand their tank. I’d even go so far and say the delay was still justified for the poor timing, just not the demand to cancel it completely.
Ukraine and (because I know this would be brought up otherwise) Singapore are/were different. The issue wasn’t third parties complaining, it’s that Ukranian and Singaporean players were largely against this placement. If a majority of their respective playerbases were to ask to be placed with the USSR / China techtrees then I would support these as well and call third party complaints from western nations absurd too.
Just because Ukraine bought a Leopard from Germany doesn’t give Germans a right to decide what happens with the Ukranian nation. The payment for the Leopard was the money they paid, now it’s theirs and no longer under German control.
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Out of context?
Duality of man…
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