Top tier still terribly unbalanced

you literally

Yes. Because the competitors are SPAA, not other missiles.
After all it’s in the name: Air-to-Ground Missile. Not air to air, thus other missiles aren’t its competitors.

100% except AGM-65Bs on Ayit and sort of Viggen, where it’s balanced.

Dev server SPAA is not currently in-game.

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You know dammed well what I meant, so don’t start playing word games. I said opponents, not competitors

Edit - I did not in fact say opponents, lol. My bad. The point still stands thougn.

I’m not going to entertain bad metrics because the situations those standards are for just don’t happen.
No one’s jousting each other with AGMs [as a rule] where those standards matter.
Everyone’s jousting SPAA while launching their AGMs at tanks.
So it’s AGM vs SAM as the correct metric.

Wrong.
Residual penetration value is the only important thing for spalling.

GNSS doesn’t affect IR missiles.

Right. So you think the maverick operates in an environment where the ADATS, the tor, the 2s6 etc are unable to deal with their launching aircraft?

2S6 can’t deal with A-10A launching 65Ds.

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ADATS has a maximum range of 10km [I don’t know its effective range at this time].
AGM-65D has an effective range of 15km and a maximum of 23km.
A-10 firing AGM-65Ds easily do 12km as well, just a bit slower on the climb to 4000 meters compared to F-111F.

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That’s why the sentence implies ‘while also’ and not ‘alongside’.
topics over, russian mains arrived in their gaslight strength.

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Mentioning GNSS for IR missiles in the first place doesn’t make sense as it doesn’t even work.

Also, I think you’re the only main in here.

Yes I did answered your questions, the AGM-65 do operate in a environment where it outperforms counterparts because said counterparts doesn’t exist, where it is manual guided missiles or regular rockets.

AGM-65 can outperform any anti-air system it faces at most battle rating it’s present, specially at battle rating 10.3, when most systems like 2S6, Roland 1 and similars are simply unreliable over 5,00 km whever the missile is slow to counter before you are a target or can’t reach such distances.

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Last I checked Hudler’s the only Soviet main among the group that arrived.

MotorolaCRO is a 5 tech tree player that has expanded into 3 more tech trees for a total of 8.
And cyrilic name here is a 2 tech tree player: Japan and Soviets.

Even though Hudler is a Soviet main, he’s close to getting USA and Germany up there.

Ain’t that the truth, lmao.

Happens everytime, without fail.

Cute flag abuse, btw.

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Yeah. I had a long rebuttal all typed up, ridiculing the absolute banger of a 5km claim and addressing the “to the same degree” part they’re dancing around.

That’s the problem. Not that some maverick launchers out-range their spaa opponents (as if mavericks launched at 12km have a snowflakes chance in hell of hitting), but that the kh-38 out-ranges and out-performs its opponent spaa to such a ridiculous degree.

But, it’s just too dammed hot to have the same arguments about the kh-38 again, especially if we get into how the MT is over performing to such a degree it would make Pravda blush.

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They must be why hvap and apds spall so much. After all, the conqueror is renown for its spall generation.

Sarcasm, in case it wasn’t obvious.

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Screenshot 2025-05-07 100802

Huh… 12 - 15km launches from low altitude using Harrier GR7…

Those AAs don’t really have much more than 5km of effective range and 65Ds outrange their maximum range of 10km as well.

My bad, didn’t specify what I said is only true for long rod darts.

That is clearly an 11.7/12 game, the 5km was made in reference to 10.3 to 10.7 SAMs.

Also, cropped screenshots are not evidence, lol.

I closed out of the post-battle screen so I was limited to the hit analysis screen for a screenshot at the time.
Dismissing evidence is a double edged sword as you invite everyone to dismiss your statements.
I won’t, but I will warn you people have a valid reason to now.

Alvis im going to say it once and nicely.

Never, ever speak to me, quote me or interact with me in any way on this forum ever again.

Im not interested in anything you have to say nor do i have energy to be concerned with your posts.

Im going to block you now, and id be glad if you would do the same to me.

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