TOP tier Pre 1995 merica GRB is a joke!

F-16C BLK 52 production began in 1992 and it uses PW-229 so PW-229 was in production in or before 1992

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almost everything you list is upgrades of older vehicles…
the T-80BVM for example is basically a mid 1970s tank with a new FCS and new ERA.
Same with the Abrams.

The M1A1HC, M1A2 and up magically gain 200mm of kinetic protection with the same armour lay out, if that’s not DU what is it?

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That is a good summery of Russia in the 1990s to 2000s, the USSR collapsed in 1991 and Russian military development basically stopped until the early 2000s. For example the R-77 was only ever produced in large numbers for export, the Russian air force basically used the R-27s until the R-77-1 became available in 2015.
And that’s the root cause of the issue, the collapse of the USSR put Russia back 15 to 20 years is its R&D and the game is not balanced on date of service.

Then again the Su-30 is a Su-27…

Noooooo! it’s a totally new design!!!111111

Wow. You’ve seen it here first folks. The Challenger and Leclerc are better than the Abrams now!

He’s not lying though, try to prove him wrong.

I did mention the turret ring spot, maybe try to read few times then reply to my comments next time.

well for one, the T-90M in game is Obr. 2017. Also this game does not care about intro dates, only capabilities

Which T90M capabilities are superior to the SEPV2s that introduced in 2008 but comes with armor from the 80’s.

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None? That’s the thing, the russians lagged behind weapon development because of the collapse of the Soviet union. Also calling SEP V2 having armor from the 80s is hilariously misleading when incremental upgrade of Composite inserts happened between, guess what SEPs

The hull didn’t get any upgrade whatsoever, any top tier shell can go through like butter.

None of the SEPs that got added did any good to the US tech tree, just more tank to waste time on grinding but in the end you find out that they’re worse than the previous ones.

I’d say the best Abrams is the M1A1.

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Because US focused on Turret upgrades because the Abrams was made to defend the Fulda in prepared defensive positions, also the fact that they have been fighting insurgencies means they never had a reason to upgrade except improving durability (ergo multihit capabilities) of the DU inserts instead of actual armor value

Blame the US for not giving Abrams improved hull until the SEPV3

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Ah yes, you’d know better than the country that spends 20mill dollars per tank, and billions on their ground units.

The armor that’s ingame is based on export models, non of them is the actual armor that’s in the actual tank, DU gets removed and anyother armor that’s classified just like the version that been sent to Ukraine not having the armor it should get, but that didn’t stop it from performing better than their counterparts.

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You do know America guarantees the export composite is just as good as DU right? They only use DU because it’s cheap for the amount of protection it gives

If i may ask for the proof of your claims, because now you’re just coping.

watch out they are exactly the same missile in wt so we just say aim120 1991

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Agreed, It’s just so stupid because Russia gets more of their modern vehicles such as the 2S38 when it’s not even in service.

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I mean considering he claims that T-90M is just upgraded T-90 the amount of coping is quite big.

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… what is it if not an upgraded T-90?

If you’re asking thing question then surely you also got not idea.

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This is just 1 example, and this is in reference to M1A1 AIM we have in game