Top Tier ground

This is slightly a rant … Who thought it was a good idea to make spaa worthless but make top tier jets have the ability to shoot icbm fire forget bombs. Time and time again I have the issue of an Su-34’s mop my entire team I just had one kill 4 of us go back to their airfield and come right back.

What about the f-15e and Rafale? They are all overpowered.

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Honestly letting planes in ground battle has always been a bad idea… but they just seem to love making it worse.

CAS is broken, this is a well known fact.

Next.

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How to shut down problems… Not talk about them.

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There’s 8 million threads and even a specific one about the Su-34.

I’m on your side, I hate CAS. So much so that I barely touch top tier, but this additional topic doesn’t do or add much.

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The issue needs to keep being brought up or it’ll be forced into the back where old problem that persist are.
Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

It was Gaijins idea

I never cared about CAS imbalance too much but the Kh-38 is beyond dumb, don’t introduce A/KD-88s on the JH-7 because it would outrange SPAA, okay, don’t introduce Longbow Hellfires because they’d be too good, eh fine, pre-nerf Brimstones because they’d be too good by arbitrarily limiting them to one guidance selection, what about Vikhrs destroying 3 gamemodes for the longest time then and acting as dual purpose missiles when the function had to be selected by the pilot pre-launch? The Su-25SM3/Su-34 outranging SPAA almost twice over with F+F munitions? Is of balance comrade)))

yeah I don’t play anything above 11.3 anymore. Worst part of all of this is that ppl defend the Kh-38

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They confirmed new top tier spaa for all nations will be added this year.

We will see what they add.

It’s it’s not ARH missiles it’ll be a failure. Anything short of ARH is a failure. We shouldn’t be manually guiding missiles when they can pop, fire and go back under cover and lock the position of the map from the vehicles selection place.

Anything less then ARH SPAA is a failure for top tier.

Im leaning towards NATO getting aim120 sams

I hope so, but I won’t hold my breath. It would be on brand to screw it up.

Honestly its only just the latest few planes that have been able to consistently beat current top tier SPAA.

Everything before that has required a heap of counter play to avoid SPAA, and those aircraft are still 2.0 BRs above said SPAAs. Anything thats actually at the BR of current top tier SPAA is completely outmatched and requires a serious level of defensive flying to even survive, let alone get kills.

I have never believed that top tier is like props. in WW2/prop tiers yes, CAS is super easy and SPAA is super difficult.

At top tier its reversed, Pilots up to around 13.0ish have to do a lot of things very efficiently to get their munitions off without dying, while SPAA players can just sit there with one hand on their mouse, a finger up their nose, and easily knock those aircraft down.

Definitely the latest aicraft are still swinging it back in the other direction again, but its still nowhere near as easy to avoid SPAA as it is in props.

Yup, its easier. Atleast in prop tiers planes have to get near the spaa to kill them. Now they can kill them from 3-8km out of their range!

And pantsirs can still hit jets at their spawn. When you spawn in a jet if you dont immediately turn hard 90 degrees and leave you will probably die.

Being an avid CAS user, the ability to use CAS decently is limited to having:

  • Lots of friendly planes for SPAA to target first

  • No SPAA at all

The issue isn’t CAS, it’s a lack of people playing SPAA.

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Or dive & hit low flanking strikes.

Pantsir is what all top tier spaa should be ATLEAST. F-15e and Rafale both dog on the pantsir if played right.

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Wow I’ve never had issues as CAS because ir missiles are a joke and manual missiles are a joke so I just stay low and print free money.

‘IR missiles are a joke’?

Maybe I’m just bad, but I die to Type-81C’s and FIM-92K’s pretty often unless reflaring.