Top tier ground unplayable because of russian bias cas

It bleeds more speed than usual because high AoA turns you into an ever bigger airbrake

Preflaring can literally defeat the 1 turn advantage it barely has

Not at very close ranges, If you get a radar lock and the missile gains a lock while salved no amount of flares will help you within .7km side aspect

Which is what you want in a off boresight dogfighr

Radar slaving doesn’t mean it’s immune to flares, also it’s a circle flight your 0.7km is actually bigger because guess what? missiles needs to turn

Yeah and it also puts you in a really low energy state that gives the enemy an advantage

Never said it did. However the irccm locks onto the aircraft and the aircraft takes up the entire seeker not allowing it to see flares at that range.

Super easy for a thrust vectoring missile

Or it allows you to kill them without them having any chance to kill you.

an FoV of 0.75 degrees at 700m is around (?) to 8m - 9m, that’s big enough to see flares

Ok, then what about at closer ranges? and what happens when the missile comes off the rails does the seeker FOV not get smaller to only see the plane

Any closer and you’re better off using guns because even the R-73 doesn’t pull that hard in a really tight circle

I dog fight with my freinds all the time. If you get slow against it and it points anywhere near you, your fate is sealed. I’ve had it hit me when they are spinning out and I pass them sub 200 meters. The R-73 is a crazy missile and the dogfighting platform it’s on makes it crazy

These dogfights are against the worse Su-27 so I bet fighting the Su30 is way harder.

Su-30 is literally the 2nd worse flanker airframe, only beats a whale called the Su-34

I’m not so sure that is true but ok. I don’t really feel like my points are being taken seriously either so idk what else to say to you. Idk why you’re so set on it being bad but I also don’t know how to change your mind.

Sweet lord, claiming all that from SU30 and r77-1 , i can place a bet you havent played it at all… Or Su 34, or 33.
77-1 are just a bit better 77’s, but not a match on 120’s during this su30 spam, I’ve died 2 times on 77-1 and 1 time on 77, countless times on 120.
it is still slow platform and those 77-1 feels they bleed energy on turning like jamaican guitarist consuming herbs.


Looks like it’s close to the Su-33 in perf but bleeds even more speed in similar AoA

Does statshark now include the new AOA limiter option? Or the thrust vectoring. It doesn’t look like it becuase the graphs are really similar to what they were before the maneuverability option was added.

Also to be clear in not calling the Su-30 the best. I was wrong about the R-77-1 which changes my view on the aircraft. However in a dogfight I do believe it is better than what most nations without a EF have.

I think it uses FRC Manual control, because there’s toggles for instructor mode and SAS dampening

Rafale exist, also the F-18 can outturn it

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I’ve yet to see how the F-18 can do against it but I doubt the little bit of turn rate is a saving factor. However I do agree that in most cases the rafeal will perform better

no way russian mains claim su30 is bad lol

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