If its magach 5 yes its a rare animal its very good but in short it has bad mobility and bad protection against apfsds so it cant go higher
The german one has better mobility thats why its 8.3 as far as ik
Israel bias lol
Are we talking on the nation that the best spaa it has is a chaparral?
A nation that its top tier mbts are paper when it should be on leo 2a7 level?
And dont let me start on the namers lol
Gaijin hates israel rare gems like sabra and magach 5 is the best we got
It is true, the stolen T-62 aka Tiran 6 also has more machine guns than Rambo, how is it fair vs the original T-62 without 50 cal?? with so many mgs I can shoot down helicopters and even light tanks, T-62 cannot do that bro the Tiran 6 should be 9.0! Gaijin hate RU it seems
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M60 and M48 are definitely problematic for that APHE.
If you speak about minor nation like France, then it’s needed to point out all the T-54 copies you’ll have to deal with at around that BR.
USSR tanks struggling to pen something due to armor = skill issue
Non-USSR tanks struggling to pen USSR tanks due to armor = OP armor
Ease off on that double standard.
Large parts of the hull being immune to your shell isn’t just “a little”.
That is far, far away from “almost everywhere”.
M48 is easily better overall as it comes with way more advantages.
Mediums at 8.0 have bad protection against darts, that’s not an excuse. It also has ERA that is capable of stopping 105mm HEAT rounds, which is pretty good. Those two should definitely share the same BR.
While having 50 cals is nice its not a justification for a br raise bruh
Israel has great mediums until you reach 12.0 (and 11.3s need a reload buff).
Skill issue man
And u mostly get downtiers so u dont see them alot anyway
Thos are the more modern t54 that have worse armor and u can pen its front turret
Yes dude cuz ussr has much better armor
Look at u complaining about the ufp of m60 dude m60!
No one is struggling against that
Thats heavy tank for you
Same case with is 3 and is4 and t10m on downtier
U trade armor for reload or mobility
Also u can pen almost the entire hull and turret neck its not hard try it
Huh?
Dude only ufp is little that is a skill issue
Sure nice protection against heat but u are a light tank to apfsds and apds and u dont have the mobility like the german m48
U are aware that u jump from 9.7 to 11.3 right?
And merkava 3 are ass reaload buff will come handy but it still slow and paper against t80s and even top tier
Also at 8.7, the Magach has rocket pods that some helicopter uses, name is hydra or somting, the rockets very powerful bro have you tried it? it has the stopin powah of BMP’s anti tank grenade or at least close to it, that’s a tank with helicopter combined how is it 8.7? Israel bias for sure bro it has 38 rockets and with ammo box become 76 rockets total you gotta be crazy it has enough ammo to nuke 76 tanks not accounting for the apfsds it is using that can one-tab t-55am, the whole tank is a weakspot point and click brainded gameplay bro
Bruh magach hydra is fun but its naked m48 on 8.7 so everything can pen u and its not like u are fast like a light tank
bmps can shit on u the same as u can shit on them
Also u can be ammoracked very easily im pretty sure
Its high fire power and nothing else
And im pretty sure it doesnt get ammo box its a mbt not tank destroyer
And u cherry picking gems to defend ur point dude if magach hydra is a gem russia is a mine
Anybody else want popcorn?
This arguments are so stupid
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I agree
I admit israel has strong 8.7-9.7 line ups but its nothing that the big 3 cant deal with
oso, dun git me started on the reserves that Israel tech tree has, the sherman has a cannon with 400mm pen bro have you played it? it can kill IS-7 if through the turret chick area bro have you see it crazy potent ammo at 6.0 bro if you have any idea how powah is that round ipm1 arbams at 11.3 still using it, and to make the matter even worse, player can spawn three of them! crazy man we even has a thread dedicated to it with almost 1000 comments I think you must have saw that thread didn’t you bro, tell me you saw it and don’t tell me you didn’t already saw it. Gaijin handheld Israel more than any nations, sometimes I feel like USA, Ru and Garmany are minor nations
There’s nothing skill related in pointing out how APHE struggle to pen a certain tank, while in return his HEAT can lolpen you. It’s just facts you’re trying to deny using the skill issue “argument”.
M48s are at 7.7 so you’ll see them all the time. Saying that 7.7s won’t see 8.0s often is also disingenuous.
Definition of a pixel hunt.
Meanwhile he can lolpen you and actually some versions (like this Chinese one) have partial stabilization.
I’m just showing you how that APHE isn’t as strong as you think.
That APHE is definitely struggling against M60s, it’s literally shown in the pictures lol.
M48s and M60s aren’t heavy tanks.
No you can’t.
They all have similar mobility while T-54 reloads slower.
German M48 is a light tank to darts and APDS as well, your point being ?
It trades mobility for ERA, they should be at the same BR.
And ?
I’m talking about tanks being strong, not about abundance of lineups.
That Israel main noamax started it, so I just play along.
Later homie
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M51 is hella mid its just annoying cuz the spam but its free kills to anyone with awearness and aphe loaded
Lif u struggle agains m48 yes its a skill issue if u just hold W and rely on ur armor
Same can be said to the m48 is he holding W u can lol pen and 1 shit exept the ufp
It doesnt show the green but u can pen it close to the gun easily in fact also tiger 2 can do that
No its not u have the entire turret to shoot at bruhh
Argue with facts nice
Yes u can i do that all the time
M103 has max speed of 33kph and bad relaod
M48 has bad armor do u can pen it easily
Both have giant profile which is nothing to sleep on in the t series
I didnt played it i dont think the era is so good as the missing mobility but sure if u can show me its overperforming then it can go to 8.3
U said it like there is alot of tanks
Until 8.7 its avarge
Then until 9.7 its pretty good but thats it
Not only that the R-27 air to air realistically only have 35 to 38G pull but made it 50. Aim 120 realistically have 40g pull recorded yet made ot 35 hmmmm suspicious
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