Top tier ground unplayable because of russian bias cas

I agree

I admit israel has strong 8.7-9.7 line ups but its nothing that the big 3 cant deal with

oso, dun git me started on the reserves that Israel tech tree has, the sherman has a cannon with 400mm pen bro have you played it? it can kill IS-7 if through the turret chick area bro have you see it crazy potent ammo at 6.0 bro if you have any idea how powah is that round ipm1 arbams at 11.3 still using it, and to make the matter even worse, player can spawn three of them! crazy man we even has a thread dedicated to it with almost 1000 comments I think you must have saw that thread didn’t you bro, tell me you saw it and don’t tell me you didn’t already saw it. Gaijin handheld Israel more than any nations, sometimes I feel like USA, Ru and Garmany are minor nations

There’s nothing skill related in pointing out how APHE struggle to pen a certain tank, while in return his HEAT can lolpen you. It’s just facts you’re trying to deny using the skill issue “argument”.
M48s are at 7.7 so you’ll see them all the time. Saying that 7.7s won’t see 8.0s often is also disingenuous.

Definition of a pixel hunt.
Meanwhile he can lolpen you and actually some versions (like this Chinese one) have partial stabilization.

I’m just showing you how that APHE isn’t as strong as you think.
That APHE is definitely struggling against M60s, it’s literally shown in the pictures lol.

M48s and M60s aren’t heavy tanks.
No you can’t.

They all have similar mobility while T-54 reloads slower.

German M48 is a light tank to darts and APDS as well, your point being ?
It trades mobility for ERA, they should be at the same BR.

And ?
I’m talking about tanks being strong, not about abundance of lineups.

That Israel main noamax started it, so I just play along.

Later homie

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M51 is hella mid its just annoying cuz the spam but its free kills to anyone with awearness and aphe loaded

Lif u struggle agains m48 yes its a skill issue if u just hold W and rely on ur armor
Same can be said to the m48 is he holding W u can lol pen and 1 shit exept the ufp

It doesnt show the green but u can pen it close to the gun easily in fact also tiger 2 can do that

No its not u have the entire turret to shoot at bruhh

Argue with facts nice
Yes u can i do that all the time

M103 has max speed of 33kph and bad relaod
M48 has bad armor do u can pen it easily
Both have giant profile which is nothing to sleep on in the t series

I didnt played it i dont think the era is so good as the missing mobility but sure if u can show me its overperforming then it can go to 8.3

U said it like there is alot of tanks
Until 8.7 its avarge
Then until 9.7 its pretty good but thats it

Not only that the R-27 air to air realistically only have 35 to 38G pull but made it 50. Aim 120 realistically have 40g pull recorded yet made ot 35 hmmmm suspicious

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Why are yall talking about Cold War tier in a top tier thread 🤦 ffs stick to the topic

Oh, that’s what you meant.I thought you meant that you didn’t want the Su 34 to get downtiered in anyway, in which then the BR would be 1.0. (as a joke). Yeah then you might want to change the BR of the PE-8 as well, and put the BT-7 up in 12.7 to make things balanced.

This is a dumb argument. J-11s haven’t killed anything irl so it shouldn’t kill in war thunder?

Apart from the Soviet Union,no other countries have excellent air defense systems.Israel’s situation is even more ridiculous.How are others supposed to face the attacks of the Su-34?Are they supposed to wait until it gets six kills,then take off and look for it?Isn’t that too passive?Why is it that only the Soviet Union gets the best air defense systems,the best aircraft,and the best ground vehicles,while others have to be weakened?Why is the Brimstone missile only available in the laser-guided version,and the Hellfire missile doesn’t have fire-and-forget capability?Why is it only allowed for the Soviet Union to slaughter the others?

Just like how you deal with any CAS nowadays, a CAP aircraft

yes, and it gets outclassed by current CAS in game

Afaik EFT and Rafale ain’t Soviet

Afaik Leopard 2s ain’t Soviet

Because mmW Radar can’t be smoked

Because we have 114Ks not Ls

Yet it’s not the dominant nation?

this is just getting dumb

CAS is killing this game in all BR doesnt matter the nation. Ground is currently unplayable because of CAS and it’s getting worse. You can’t even get out of spawn anymore. This game is dead.

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My god… I had many matches where same dude spawned su34 got ~4kills quickly died and spawned su30 again ~4 kills and die afterwards.

But man match just i had was total sht show. I saw not 1 doing it not 2 BUT 3 DUDES doing same thing. Its only 1 day after the update so that will probably get even worse cuz people are still researching.

This is peak fkn cinema of balance

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after this update top tier is even worse. There are already people who grinded out su30

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I need more people keep doing this job
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To save your teammates from skill less RU CAS

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Camping airspawn is so skillful, lmao.

It didn’t help win the battle anyway. The problem must be somewhere else.