Really because I see top tier prem verhicles used by lvl 50-100 players and still act one spawn quit anyway.
I think they should limit all sorts of vehicles based on how many there were irl, but then we would never find games
Here is the ugly reality - Although I agree with you here is the epiphany of the obvious:
- Premium pays the bills
- Gaijin is a company
- Companies are in business to make money.
If you get rid of Premium and the “Wallet Warriors” the only way you can sustain the game is eliminate play for free. Then, to maintain profit, one would have to start making it subscription based, and pay for the game similar to what Bethesda’s Fallout 76 does - Buy the game, then pay a subscription to play it on closed servers, and then make additional income from micro-transactions. I would hazard a guess that the immediate effect is the player base population would take a major hit. Then you wouldn’t have anyone to play with.
I like the idea of reducing SL payout based on activity, but really what else can you do? I think that the Dev’s have to do more to support squadron based play, of which they have been ignoring. Because when it’s all said and done those of whom that are really causing the problem are Premium driving Rando’s. You almost never see Squadron members pull that nonsense.
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This would absolutely ruin ground rb.
Put low-levels rank 6+ in a separate queue from everyone else, and remove all rank 6+ premiums.
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That would never work, for the reasons I stated above. Although if you coupled that with BR decompression, and then packed low and mid tier only with premiums, while then only allowing the last two tiers to be grind-only, that would be feasible as a business model.
However, that would be a major game overhaul and Gaijin would have to have a reasonable cost-benefit analysis that would justify investing that many man-hours (money). In other words, a company is not going to spend money to overhaul their structural business model unless the change both pays for the investment and yields more income, which it would not. So what you are proposing will never happen.
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There are PLENTY of rank 6+ premium players to fill queue slots, and not only that, they’d be more likely to stick around since they’re not fighting lvl 100s with thousands of hours.
Your idea would not change the game because if Gajin don’t put premium in rank 6 then Wargaming will fill the gap anyway.
Gaijin cannot force players to spawn twice.
Blaming devs for players poor choices isn’t helpful; neither is blaming the players for that matter.
That’s a good way to end War Thunder. Punishing behavior is not how you provide a healthy game.
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i have not seen higher levels really do that as they atleast have some lineups
You don’t play a lot of top tier battles. I see lvl 50-100 in prem Soviet tank T-80U-E1 quit after being kil so they have line up but decide to quit instead to play further.
Top tier is a joke, exactly because of this.
Easy solution, don’t allow anyone into top tier GRB unless they have atleast 3+ rank VIII vehicles.
People can still buy premium vehicles, exactly like top tier air, but without ruining the game for everyone else (same as air, since you only have 1 spawn).
Right now top tier GRP is just a battle of who has the least amount of 1 tank walletwarriors on their team
The only way to fix it is Skill Based Matchmaking. It literally solves all of our problems.
Seal clubbing at low tiers will be gone for the most part, since the only reason people seal club is to pad their stats.
Wallet Warriors will be largely unseen, since most Wallet Warriors have zero skill and have terrible stats.
There will theoretically be more equal matches, with less chances of being spawn camped by seal clubbers in the first five seconds.
There is no downside except the sweaty tryhards and seal clubbers getting mad they cannot prey on people just trying to grind.
You are not entitled to anything.
What do you even rant about? Player dying?
Be thankful players fund your game. And no sane person gonna free grind whole tech tree for months or years with ww2 s-boxes to reach tanks they want
the audacity of some people, smh
Or put players below lvl 50 in separate queues
Idk how much total RP is needed to hit a top tier tank, but for aircraft -
you can theoretically reach top tier sweden well before level 50.
| Title | Rank | Total XP | Required XP to Next Level |
|---|---|---|---|
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| None | |||
| Rank 0 | 0 | 500 | |
| Rank 1 | 500 | 1,300 | |
| Rank 2 | 1,800 | 3,200 | |
| Rank 3 | 5,000 | 6,600 | |
| Rank 4 | 11,600 | 11,900 | |
| Rank 5 | 23,500 | 19,200 | |
| Rank 6 | 42,700 | 29,000 | |
| Rank 7 | 71,700 | 41,500 | |
| Rank 8 | 113,200 | 56,900 | |
| Rank 9 | 170,100 | 75,500 | |
| Rank 10 | 245,600 | 77,000 | |
| Rank 11 | 322,600 | 78,800 | |
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| Lieutenant | |||
| Rank 12 | 401,400 | 80,700 | |
| Rank 13 | 482,100 | 82,500 | |
| Rank 14 | 564,600 | 84,300 | |
| Rank 15 | 648,900 | 86,100 | |
| Rank 16 | 735,000 | 87,900 | |
| Rank 17 | 822,900 | 89,800 | |
| Rank 18 | 912,700 | 91,600 | |
| Rank 19 | 1,004,300 | 93,400 | |
| Rank 20 | 1,097,700 | 95,200 | |
| Rank 21 | 1,192,900 | 97,100 | |
| Rank 22 | 1,290,000 | 98,900 | |
| Rank 23 | 1,388,900 | 100,700 | |
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| Captain | Rank 24 | 1,489,600 | 102,500 |
| Rank 25 | 1,592,100 | 104,400 | |
| Rank 26 | 1,696,500 | 106,200 | |
| Rank 27 | 1,802,700 | 108,000 | |
| Rank 28 | 1,910,700 | 109,800 | |
| Rank 29 | 2,020,500 | 111,700 | |
| Rank 30 | 2,132,200 | 113,500 | |
| Rank 31 | 2,245,700 | 115,300 | |
| Rank 32 | 2,361,000 | 117,100 | |
| Rank 33 | 2,478,100 | 119,000 | |
| Rank 34 | 2,597,100 | 120,800 | |
| Rank 35 | 2,717,900 | 122,600 | |
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| Major | Rank 36 | 2,840,500 | 124,400 |
| Rank 37 | 2,964,900 | 126,300 | |
| Rank 38 | 3,091,200 | 128,100 | |
| Rank 39 | 3,219,300 | 129,900 | |
| Rank 40 | 3,349,200 | 131,700 | |
| Rank 41 | 3,480,900 | 133,600 | |
| Rank 42 | 3,614,500 | 135,400 | |
| Rank 43 | 3,749,900 | 137,200 | |
| Rank 44 | 3,887,100 | 139,000 | |
| Rank 45 | 4,026,100 | 140,900 | |
| Rank 46 | 4,167,000 | 142,700 | |
| Rank 47 | 4,309,700 | 144,500 | |
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| Colonel | Rank 48 | 4,454,200 | 146,300 |
| Rank 49 | 4,600,500 | 148,200 | |
| Rank 50 | 4,748,700 | 150,000 | |
| Rank 51 | 4,898,700 | 151,800 | |
| Rank 52 | 5,050,500 | 153,600 | |
| Rank 53 | 5,204,100 | 155,500 | |
| Rank 54 | 5,359,600 | 157,300 | |
| Rank 55 | 5,516,900 | 159,100 | |
| Rank 56 | 5,676,000 | 160,900 | |
| Rank 57 | 5,836,900 | 162,700 | |
| Rank 58 | 5,999,600 | 164,600 | |
| Rank 59 | 6,164,200 | 166,400 | |
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| Commander | Rank 60 | 6,330,600 | 168,200 |
| Rank 61 | 6,498,800 | 170,000 | |
| Rank 62 | 6,668,800 | 171,900 | |
| Rank 63 | 6,840,700 | 173,700 | |
| Rank 64 | 7,014,400 | 175,500 | |
| Rank 65 | 7,189,900 | 177,300 | |
| Rank 66 | 7,367,200 | 179,200 | |
| Rank 67 | 7,546,400 | 181,000 | |
| Rank 68 | 7,727,400 | 182,800 | |
| Rank 69 | 7,910,200 | 184,600 | |
| Rank 70 | 8,094,800 | 186,500 | |
| Rank 71 | 8,281,300 | 188,300 | |
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| Commodore | Rank 72 | 8,469,600 | 190,100 |
| Rank 73 | 8,659,700 | 191,900 | |
| Rank 74 | 8,851,600 | 193,800 | |
| Rank 75 | 9,045,400 | 195,600 | |
| Rank 76 | 9,241,000 | 197,400 | |
| Rank 77 | 9,438,400 | 199,200 | |
| Rank 78 | 9,637,600 | 201,100 | |
| Rank 79 | 9,838,700 | 202,900 | |
| Rank 80 | 10,041,600 | 204,700 | |
| Rank 81 | 10,246,300 | 206,500 | |
| Rank 82 | 10,452,800 | 208,400 | |
| Rank 83 | 10,661,200 | 210,200 | |
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| General | Rank 84 | 10,871,400 | 212,000 |
| Rank 85 | 11,083,400 | 213,800 | |
| Rank 86 | 11,297,200 | 215,700 | |
| Rank 87 | 11,512,900 | 217,500 | |
| Rank 88 | 11,730,400 | 219,300 | |
| Rank 89 | 11,949,700 | 221,100 | |
| Rank 90 | 12,170,800 | 223,000 | |
| Rank 91 | 12,393,800 | 224,800 | |
| Rank 92 | 12,618,600 | 226,600 | |
| Rank 93 | 12,845,200 | 228,400 | |
| Rank 94 | 13,073,600 | 230,300 | |
| Rank 95 | 13,303,900 | 232,100 | |
| Rank 96 | 13,536,000 | 233,900 | |
| Rank 97 | 13,769,900 | 235,700 | |
| Rank 98 | 14,005,600 | 237,500 | |
| Rank 99 | 14,243,100 | 239,400 | |
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| Marshal | Rank 100 | 14,482,500 |
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Those players are the exception, not the rule.
If you play a single tech tree, you won’t be getting a lot of levels.
Level 50 is just ~4.8m RP.
And on the flipside, you have people like me who are like level 65 or sth 710 hours of gameplay without unlocking a single end-of-line vehicle because of focusing on WW2 brackets.
Levels are pretty much irrelevant beyond “I collected this many vehicles.” where level 100 corresponds to about 2 full tech trees or equivalent.
My calculation according your xp means that you need every battle a victory+premium account+booster xp pack.
Levels are 1:1 RP acquired (with modifiers) according to my tests.
Since time was not defined in the statement, how and how quickly you acquire that RP, I don’t see how premium/boosters make an impact.
Getting 5m RP over 4 months or over 2 weeks is the same level.