Top tier GRB- I have had enough and I think its time you should too

10 year WT player here. Not that many of you care but I think it gives me some sort of credibility. Quite frankly, I am sick of the greed that this company spews out. I like to enjoy playing my MBTs that I have EARNED. However at this point whenever I see USA on my team I don’t even waste my time and just leave. Just had a game where my team was all USA, and I was the only Italian player on my team. We were getting spawn camped within 5 minutes because the wallet warrior click bait players rush in, die in 30 seconds, and leave. Gaijin is more concerned with stuffing their wallets full of cash from selling “top tier” crap to people just getting into the game then gameplay at the upper tiers of the game.

Everyone, including myself is being complacent in this. This has been going on for a YEAR now and Gaijin hasn’t done anything to curb it. It is beyond frustrating that the winner of GRB games are already decided before the match has begun. It is based off what side has less one death leaver wallet warriors. What type of company thinks gameplay like this is okay?

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I know exactly what you mean…

Btw, here is a solution proposal, since it seems many ground players think the game mode works like air rb.

If someone brings a single vehicle in their lineup and they do leave after one death, award no SL and no RP.

If they use a backup, award 20% of the SL and RP earned.

If they bring an additional vehicle of the same rank, give them 50% of the RP and SL earned.

100% of the RP and SL are only awarded if you bring and use at least 3 vehicles of the same rank OR survive until the end of the round.

That’s a bad idea.

Why should I be punished for not feeding the enemy SP after my team has collapsed?

Rank doesn’t mean a ton.

We do not need more punishments in war thunder.

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Map fixes, and 25% reward for the spawn campers whom kill newly spawned vehicles would be nice.

Anyone alive for longer than 1 min gives a full 100% reward.

But the maps are tiny for MBT, not to mention the Leo 2a7 spam

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What they can do is limit clickbait’s to 4 per match like when the og Abrams first came out. Add some meaningful additions to top tier us like a sepv3 with increased hull/turret armor with trophy aps and the SLAMRAM humvee to bring some players back to the US tech tree. Implement the many bug reports on the Abrams that would help it a lot. There are plenty of options gaijin can do they just choose not and rather add more premiums to add fuel to the fire.

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Just remove nation based mm in ground rb like they have in air rb, at this point the cat is out of the bag and there’s no putting it back in, so distribute the bad and good players more evenly so that nation is no longer a factor.

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Just put all the US in one team or put match US vs US so they don’t be a deadweight to other team
Problem solve everyone happy

It is NOT limited to a specific nation, it is a premium vehicle issue.

You have the Clickbait, the Leo 2, the T-80, the Fuji, the Challenger 2…almost all nations have a high tier premium and people use it to exclusively research their tech tree.

What should be a complimentary addition to the lineup has become the exclusive part of it.
The way certain content creators review these vehicles by not bringing a full lineup increases the issue as well. And since these CC only show their good rounds in a video, people think they will perform the same way…but they don’t.

So you need to make a change to ground rb to ensure your matches are somewhat competitive and that change requires an incentive to stay in a match till the end.

If that can only be achieved by holding back rewards, then so be it.

Also, the other vehicles have to be the same rank, because otherwise ppl will bring some reserve vehicles and just call it a day.

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Premiums ( tank, heli or plane ) should be 1.3 br less than top tier tech tree. That way all nations stay safe from lvl 5 premium players

Anyway I’m not playing top tier anymore

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I also have to say that Gaijin needs to change something! Why should we build planes and helicopters and full decks that take 600 hours? That you have 5 minutes of gameplay with complete idiots… please move the BR to 13.7 for tanks so that people can have some peace from the beginners. Gaijin needs to take a look at the gameplay and really change something fundamentally, otherwise Warthunder will go under in the next few years.

If y’all must stick to USA for some reasons, just play 9.0, good MBTs, good SPAA, you can even bring the rat up and it will still work.

How is that possible? I thought germany is so OP and would win 90 % of the matches.

btw: i would not even spawn on this shit map at top tier.

100% on this, as it also solves the issue of nation balancing issues (cough cough KV-1B being stronger then KV-1E despite being the exact same)

ARCADE SWEEEEP

There’s no fixing it as top tier premiums are already out in the wild.
If Gaijin wanted to earn easy cash they could’ve added top tier jets, as ODL is a non issue in ARB and is also easier to get into it skill wise.

I get you as an american main with no full top tier lineup i rarely play with the abrams but the clickbait users and T80 is a bad example they just rush in thinking its like a maus versus 50 L3 which is not and they get killed and die same for top tier air rb the only thing they do is bomb either for euro fighter F15E Rafals and when they do get it they have no example of skill and never even try the tech tree vehicles me myself i grinded until 10.3 america ground with no premium account until i bought some because its just impossible to grind longer with such rp requirements but id say the premium problems for usa really starts at around 10.3 with M1 KVT or the wolfpack and then the clickbait at top tier and i just dont like top tier in such way yesterday i had a match that i was playing alone everyone left within 5 minutes until i had no spawn points left and the match was over resulting in me dying 7 times and everyone barely having 2 deaths with clickbaits and t80 they gotta remove them from top tier and up the br bracket its not normal seeing top tier with people who havent even reached level 50

Oh air rb is just as bad. Especially with american premium clowns. But honestly american players in general. They get some of the best fighters in game, strap bombs to them, steal bases from people in non premiums who actually need the xp and then die.

They are the bottom of the food chain and ruin top tier

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Really because I see top tier prem verhicles used by lvl 50-100 players and still act one spawn quit anyway.

I think they should limit all sorts of vehicles based on how many there were irl, but then we would never find games

Here is the ugly reality - Although I agree with you here is the epiphany of the obvious:

  1. Premium pays the bills
  2. Gaijin is a company
  3. Companies are in business to make money.

If you get rid of Premium and the “Wallet Warriors” the only way you can sustain the game is eliminate play for free. Then, to maintain profit, one would have to start making it subscription based, and pay for the game similar to what Bethesda’s Fallout 76 does - Buy the game, then pay a subscription to play it on closed servers, and then make additional income from micro-transactions. I would hazard a guess that the immediate effect is the player base population would take a major hit. Then you wouldn’t have anyone to play with.

I like the idea of reducing SL payout based on activity, but really what else can you do? I think that the Dev’s have to do more to support squadron based play, of which they have been ignoring. Because when it’s all said and done those of whom that are really causing the problem are Premium driving Rando’s. You almost never see Squadron members pull that nonsense.

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