We need changes in top-tier ground battles — it’s becoming impossible to have fun. The teams are completely unbalanced, with extremely weak nations facing extremely strong ones. It’s getting worse and worse; it’s turned into a “PVE” mode for aircraft.
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There’s no such thing of extremely weak versus extremely strong nations facing each other in-game, and in high tier battles whoever sees the target first and shoots first wins the encounter, you can’t simply nerf this factor.
You worded it wrong. It’s Wallet Warriors versus seasoned veterans. If you play America, or on the side of America, you will always lose.
America, Britain, and Italy reliably being placed against USSR, Germany, and Sweden.
Sir you said ground mode (Originally air game and it’s ackshually combined arms noob) CAS sucks
CAS at 8.0+ with the exception of 13.0 isnt that bad, ive been grinding my face off at 10.3 for days and play like 20-30 matches a day and might die to cas a handful of times a day and 80% of the time its to helis since most spaa cant touch them.
People generally dont like top tier because player skill means a lot more when everyone has darts and a lrf. Even in downtiers you are getting 1 tapped, hell even if you had a 2.0 br downtier your weakspots are just as vulnerable, a leopard 1 can still pen the lfp of im pretty sure even 12.0 tanks, same for breach. You are punished severly for any mistake you make.
There’s zero skill in everyone being able to one tap you. It’s basically Hardcore in CoD: first to shoot wins
The skill is putting yourself in those situations where you fire first, where to aim, and the mechanical skill to put it all together and do it as fast as possible.
Camping is not a skill either
Its vehicle combat, and even in realistic shooters like SQUAD everyone camps. Holding W doesn’t make you morally superior lol.
I guess, I don’t think camping is wrong in games without complex movement sets. I can’t get I frames from a dodge roll in abrams, I cant teleport, I cant activate a shield, move fast enough to dodge projectiles moving at 1500m/s, etc. I just eat shit when I get shot at and the only way to avoid that is play in spots were I cant be and only expose myself when I need to. Obviously there is a lot of skill involved with knowing how and when to be aggressive, but its always a gamble in this game, you just need to know when the odds are in your favor.
Also I checked and ya 8.0 leopard can still pen the LFP of the t80bvm and set off the carrousel. No armor really is best armor. And dm13 isn’t even a dart lol, just regular sabot. The heat fs shell has an even easier time, just worse ballistics, removes the gaps in the lfp that the sabot can’t pen.
I’m joshing mate
Italy versus Anybody comes to mind
USA doesn’t have bad vehicles, they are composed of bad players, this is what makes it bad. I was playing battle rating 7.7 I barely could do anything either get destroyed by a swarm of T29 heavy tanks or by 2000lbs bombs.
Same applies to Great Britain and Italy which requires skills and ability to adapt to their vehicles which are different from the usual T-80 and Abrams gameplay,
USSR in my opinion is mediocre, I don’t really recommend anyone new to play USSR as main nation, biggest waste of time when you can experience the same gameplay for less time in researching at China.
Germany and Sweden no special, it’s just the usual Meta gaming, they found a good armored tank with excellent weapon, they’ll play it, Leopard 2A7V and Strv 122B+ are two of the most well armored vehicles in game this is clear but doesn’t means you can’t perform better in Great Britain and Italy.
I don’t even think that’s possible, Italy has good vehicles it’s certain, but even, it will never face another nation in-game alone, I believe this is technically impossible.
That is a very goofy take. America has multiple bad vehicles, e.g M551, P-51D-5/20/30, M901, F-104A (post nerf), F-4C/F-105, F-84F, and both of America’s last two SPAAs.
This is normal though, every nation has bad vehicles, but what makes America special is the complete lack of especially good vehicles. America has two very good light tanks, and one of those two are shared with 3 other nations. The rest of America’s tanks are generally around 4-6/10 with exception of the rank 4 heavies.
Air is largely the same. Almost all of America’s prop planes are mediocre at best, and whilst America does have a few pretty good jets e.g F-100D or F-80A-5, America never has the best jet of any given role, and a lot of America’s jets are plagued with bugs that Gajin discourages their employees to fix.
While you’re right that America doesn’t have a lot of bad vehicles, it doesn’t have a lot of great ones either. It’s all pretty much on the 4-6/10 range.
Has a lot to do without reaction time too, if you live somewhere far to the server with >250 ping then good luck doing well in top tier where milliseconds matters, especially if you choose to push and brawl head on lol
The ADATS in itself is not bad lol, never has been. It’s a solid 11.7 SPAA. Problem is that 12.3-13.0 CAS has gotten too strong, but every nation except Russia has that problem.
But in the context of top tier, which is what this thread is about, the US really doesn’t have many bad vehicles.
