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I think we should decompress to 16.0-16.7 and not only focus on the top tier but also the area like 6.0 & 8.0 where the prop meet jet and WW2 meet Cold War vehicle
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Agreed, although that would definitely be another post all on its own. I mostly play top tier, so that’s what my personal bias leans towards.
Plenty of areas need decompression, top tier is just where my focus was for this post.
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Idk if you’ve been here long enough to know that gaijin will never alter their BR scope. It will always be .0/.3/.5/.7. It’s been that way from the start, it will always be that way until the decide to introduce paper vehicles.
A .5+/- spread would mean the highest you’d see in a game is .5 above you while you’re bottom tier. A 1.0+/-BR spread is what is currently in the game meaning the highest you’d see is 1.0BR above you. A 0.7+/-BR spread is what you’d perfect want. Highest you’d ever see at being low tier is .7 above you, at being high tier the lowest you’d see is .7.
Perfect example of this right now is the F18C Early. It’s 12.7. Current it can fight against the Mig23ML at 11.7 (which is completely dominates), but with a .7+/-BR you’d only ever see at lowest would be the F4S Prem (which is on par armament wise). When being low tier in the F18C Early, you see as high as the SU27SM which outclasses the F18 early in almost every aspect, with a .7BR+/- you’d see that but more of the likes of Mig29SMT which is more on par to the F18C Early. And this wouldn’t need to change the BR at all.
.7+/- is the most simple way to fix BR decompression without altering the BR of vehicles and screwing up what is already there. Don’t fix what’s not broken, IE the Br categories are fine, the 1.0BR spread is what’s broken. And I don’t feel the need to break down more examples of it. lol. Logically it’s what needs to be done. This would nullify 85% of the compression problems in the game without hurting the wait times as well for games.
I will die on this hill. BR changes and decompression just screws up more stuff than what’s already there, plus it takes them too long to figure out BR changes.
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So F-15E from USA tech tree around 2020 ~ present ?
I suppose 4 fighter aircraft might get AIM-120C-7
- F-15E
- F-16C Block 50
- Gripen C (HuAF & RTAF)
- F/A-18C late
5 fighter aircraft armed AIM-9X (Blk 1)
- F-15C MSIP II
- F-15E
- F-16AM MLU
- F-16C Block 50
- F/A-18C (USN/USMC)
F-16C Block 50 around 2015 ~ 2019, but pre PoBIT upgrade
Changing the BR system to +/- 0.7 is more of a bandaid solution than anything. I do think +/- 0.7 would work, it’s just that it’s a short term fix for a long term issue.
Decompressing and adjusting BRs takes longer and is definitely more difficult, but in the long run it’s more worthwhile. We retain more diverse matchups without significantly changing the way the matchmaker works. Although it is also easier to simply add new BRs in small steps and adjust them afterwards if anything needs changing.
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Concerning late variants, I would expect the following:
- F-16CG Block 50 Late with the AN/APG-83 SABR AESA radar
- F-15C Late with the AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA radar
- F-15E Late with the AN/APG-82(V)1 AESA radar
- F/A-18E Block 2 with the AN/APG-79(V)4 AESA radar
All of these planes could come to the game with AIM-120C-5s, but they are all AIM-120D-3 capable afaik.
All of these planes would eventually receive AIM-9Xs whenever those come to the game. But for now we are unlikely to receive next-gen Fox-2s until much further down the timeline.
I do wish Gaijin would update the existing planes we already have in game, but I’m starting to doubt that they will do that. I am also curious how addition of the F-15E Late will affect the addition of the F-15EX. The F-15EX is still an upgrade over the F-15E Late as it receives more, better missiles AND better engines, but I wonder if Gaijin will just jump straight to the EX.
Gaijin doesn’t need to keep adding to the top of BR’s for how long the game has been around now. Anything new is too new for them to have correct info on, and too much for their team to even problem correctly. They just need to implement the .07+/-BR spread, then give it 3-6 months to see the W/L ratios fluctuate, then minority tweak the BRs of vehicles. By that time, you’d start seeing a more even W/L across the board for all countries statistically because your up tiers wouldn’t be so bad. 6.7 Ground is a perfect example of where it would highly effect gameplay since thats mid/late WWII ground vehicle mixed with Cold War Era around 7.7br vehicles which shouldn’t be mixed together at all. And 6.7br is probably one of the most popular BR brackets for ground. Next to 10.0+. Which is a cluster F just by itself. This would also help lower nations be played more instead of just grinded out for completion. Your hyperfixation on top tier air is why it doesn’t make much sense and why I used the F18C Early as an example earlier. It can’t be moved to 13.0 because then it would have to have Fox 3s to even be viable for how slow and bad the radar is. The proof in that is just looking at the F18C lates performance. It’s absolutely trash of a jet at 14.0. It’s the slowest, it has the worst radar of 14.0, and all it has going for it is the maneuverability, which the EF and Rafale do better at anyways and the 120Bs got a shadow nerf as well. .7+/- won’t effect 14.0, it would just be pointless at that BR since there’s only a handful of jets there anyways and at 13.3. But lower it would help keep Fox 3s out of non-Fox 3 jet games. That’s where BR decompression would come into play more, which they previously did at the 12.0br+ range and it helped very marginally. (It helped their bottom line for the Premiums they had back then which makes them money)
Nonetheless, they need to fix their game.
It might F-16CM with Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engine & AN/APG-83 SABR AESA radar, place after F-16C Block 50 but battle rating 15.3 or 15.7 minimum
I don’t know gajin call F-15C (2008) or F-15C (2023)
AN/APG-63(V)2 or AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA radar, I’m not sure about it.
F-15E from USA tech tree post upgrade with AN/APG-82(V)1 AESA radar, and integrade AIM-9X (Blk 1) & AIM-120D
F/A-18E late (around 2018 ~ 2021) after F/A-18C late, battle rating 15.3 minimum
Super hornet doesn’t have 79v4, just 79 afaik
Oh yeah sorry, it appears the 79(V)4 only goes to the C/Ds being upgraded by the USMC (at least in US service).
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