Top tier ARB

Wrong. Now say with a straight face that HORDES of premium mirages (have you seen 12.0ish France lately?) who usually skip the entire tree to get to Rafale magically are good enough this game to get 64%wr, while any other nation, no matter how minor/major, is not all of a sudden, not even close in fact. Sweden pales in comparison, let alone IT/CN/JP etc. Not even to mention that “historic” nation compositions in ARB is thing long gone and forgotten.

It just so happens that the WT’s entire elite just so happened to flock around France and ignore all other minor nations. Funny. Laughed. Tell me more.

Good players shifted from top Soviet ground to French air.
Simple explanation.
F-1C isn’t even a top 5 12.0 plane.
PD Phantoms, Tornado F3, JA-37D. Those alone are over 5 aircraft.
F-1C is marginally better than Mig-23ML and that’s only the case because of Magic 2s.

War Thunder’s “elite” switched from USA and Germany to USSR in 2022, or did you forget the claims of 70% BVM win rates?
Note that the T-80BVM never changed [unless it had 3BM44] from introduction in 2021 to present, yet win rate claims are all over the place.

That right here is the whole point. It is barely better and its stats reflect it. But then these exact people with these very much mid stats finally grind 14.0 and magically transform into the best performing players by all metrics in all of toptier ARB all of a sudden. Remarkable.

Yet they aren’t performing notably differently in the Rafale compared to other jets of the same class.
Back when Gripen was OP people were 2x their KDR compared to F-16, F-15, etc.
People currently are within margin of error on Rafale vs Su-30SM, F-15E/C, F-2A, etc.

Are they not, really? Because lets take something like f18 (the one at 14.0, all 3 of them) and WR differs by 10-15%, depending on nation. K/B by 1.5 times.
F-15E/? Even worse.
Su-30? Same thing, a tad better though.
EF’s? Same thing.
Compared to what exactly do they perform the same? It would seem like someone had been caught red-handed making stuff up. As if something new.

By far my fav. one is F-15I, which has WR 15% (!!!) lower and twice as low k/d. Def. doesnt look like “those” players perform about the same.

Short answer: Yes!

And that is the result of that “grinding” thing. Running through the ranks, learning nothing except full commit headons or bombing, or slinging all their missiles on every target they see.


You wanna say that`s caused by anything else than compentence?

Majority of Better KDs = shooting AI or

Running to airfield and hiding on the menus

Clubbing low BRs for overall KD boost

Wrong. K/B. Kills per battle. Player kills. Per battle. Not per death.

I play a bit of everything. I just finished the Mirage that I was missing and the German F18 that I had left to finish, but thank you for the advice, it was informative.

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??? It imcludes the AI kills…